I ran the sprand example, and it took 290 seconds on a machine with enough RAM. 
Given that it is creating a matrix with half a billion nonzeros, this doesn’t 
sound too bad.

-viral



On 30-Apr-2014, at 8:48 pm, Ryan Gardner <rwgard...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I've got 16GB of RAM on this machine.  Largely, my question, with admittedly 
> little knowledge of the internal structure of the sparse arrays, is why 
> generating the actual SparseMatrixCSC is so much slower than generating what 
> is essentially another sparse matrix representation consisting of the indices 
> and values.  (I realize that once we start swapping, which will happen in my 
> example, things slow down a ton, but even the sprand I mention was slow.)  Do 
> you observe the same results?  Is the reason for the difference clear to 
> someone else?
> 
> Thanks for all the comments.  These are helpful.  It had not crossed my mind 
> that I could control the data type of the indices.
> 
> Using the SparseMatrixCSC constructor directly would probably be very 
> helpful.  Do you learn about that constructor from looking at source code or 
> do you see it somewhere else?
> 
> I'm also curious about where @inbounds was used.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 8:59 AM, Tony Kelman <t...@kelman.net> wrote:
> If you're assembling the matrix in row-sorted column-major order and there's 
> no duplication, then you can also skip the conversion work by using the 
> SparseMatrixCSC constructor directly.
> 
> 
> On Wednesday, April 30, 2014 1:10:31 AM UTC-7, Viral Shah wrote:
> Could you post your code? Will avoid me writing the same. :-) 
> 
> Was building the vectors taking all the time, or was it in building the 
> sparse matrix from the triples? Triples to CSC conversion is an expensive 
> operation, and we have spent a fair amount of time making it fast. Of course, 
> there could be more opportunities at speeding the code. 
> 
> Where did you use @inbounds and @simd? 
> 
> -viral 
> 
> 
> 
> On 30-Apr-2014, at 1:11 pm, Dominique Orban <dominiq...@gmail.com> wrote: 
> 
> > Downgrading the 700,000 to 70,000 for the sake of not waiting all night, 
> > the original implementation takes about 4.3 seconds on my laptop. 
> > Preallocating arrays and using @inbounds brings it down to about 0.6 
> > seconds. @simd doesn't seem to provide any further speedup. Building the 
> > sparse matrix takes about 3.8 seconds. This may be due to conversion from 
> > triple to csc format?! 
> > 
> > ps: using the original size of 700,000, Julia reports a memory usage of 
> > 11.8GB. 
> > 
> > 
> > On Wednesday, April 30, 2014 12:26:02 AM UTC-7, Viral Shah wrote: 
> > I believe the memory requirement should be 700000*700*16 (64-bit nonzeros 
> > and row indices) + 700001*8 (64-bit column pointers) = 7.8 GB. 
> > 
> > This can be brought down a bit by using 32-bit index values and 64-bit 
> > floats, but then you need 5.8 GB. Finally, if you use 32-bit index values 
> > with 32-bit floats, you can come down to 4GB. The Julia sparse matrix 
> > implementation is quite flexible and allows you to easily do such things. 
> > 
> > 
> > julia> s = sparse(int32(1:10), int32(1:10), 1.0); 
> > 
> > julia> typeof(s) 
> > SparseMatrixCSC{Float64,Int32} (constructor with 1 method) 
> > 
> > julia> s = sparse(int32(1:10), int32(1:10), float32(1.0)); 
> > 
> > julia> typeof(s) 
> > SparseMatrixCSC{Float32,Int32} (constructor with 1 method) 
> > 
> > 
> > -viral 
> > 
> > On Wednesday, April 30, 2014 12:36:17 PM UTC+5:30, Ivar Nesje wrote: 
> > Sorry for pointing out a probably obvious problem, but as there are others 
> > that might try debug this issue on their laptop, I ask how much memory do 
> > you have? 700000*700 floats + indexes, will spend a minimum of 11 GB (if my 
> > math is correct) and possibly more if the asymptotic storage requirement is 
> > more than 2 Int64 + 1 Float64 per stored value. 
> > 
> > Ivar 
> > 
> > kl. 01:46:22 UTC+2 onsdag 30. april 2014 skrev Ryan Gardner følgende: 
> > Creating sparse arrays seems exceptionally slow. 
> > 
> > I can set up the non-zero data of the array relatively quickly.  For 
> > example, the following code takes about 80 seconds on one machine. 
> > 
> > 
> > vec_len = 700000 
> > 
> > 
> > row_ind = Uint64[] 
> > col_ind = Uint64[] 
> > value = Float64[] 
> > 
> > 
> > for j = 1:700000 
> >    for k = 1:700 
> >       ind = k*50 
> >       push!(row_ind, ind) 
> >       push!(col_ind, j) 
> >       push!(value, 5.0) 
> >    end 
> > end 
> > 
> > 
> > but then 
> > 
> > a = sparse(row_ind, col_ind, value, 700000, 700000) 
> > 
> > 
> > takes more than at least about 30 minutes.  (I never let it finish.) 
> > 
> > It doesn't seem like the numbers I'm using should be that far off the 
> > scale.  Is there a more efficient way I should be doing what I'm doing?  Am 
> > I missing something and asking for something that really is impractical? 
> > 
> > If not, I may be able to look into the sparse matrix code a little this 
> > weekend. 
> > 
> > 
> > The never-finishing result is the same if I try 
> > 
> > sprand(700000, 700000, .001) 
> > 
> > or if I try to set 700000*700 values in a sparse matrix of zeros directly.  
> > Thanks. 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 

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