I think it would please everyone if you moved daily televised scrums.

On Wednesday, December 10, 2014 4:53:50 PM UTC-5, John Myles White wrote:
>
> Stefan, I shared your moment of terror about the idea of posting plans 
> (essentially all of which will be invalidated) to the home page.
>
> Although it's huge volume of e-mail, I do feel like people who want to 
> keep up with new developments in Julia should try to subscribe to the issue 
> tracker and watch decisions get made in real time. It's a large increase in 
> workload to ask people to both do work on Julia and write up regular 
> reports about the work.
>
>  -- John
>
> On Dec 10, 2014, at 1:48 PM, Stefan Karpinski <ste...@karpinski.org 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
>
> I have to say the concept of putting plans up on the home page fills me 
> with dread. That means I have update the home page while I'm planning 
> things and as that plan changes and then do the work and then document it. 
> It's hard enough to actually do the work.
>
> On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 4:44 PM, David Anthoff <ant...@berkeley.edu 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
>
>> +1 on that! Even vague plans that are subject to change would be great to 
>> have.
>>
>>  
>>
>> *From:* julia...@googlegroups.com <javascript:> [mailto:
>> julia...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>] *On Behalf Of *Christian Peel
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 10, 2014 10:15 AM
>> *To:* julia...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>
>> *Subject:* Re: [julia-users] Re: home page content
>>
>>  
>>
>> One thing that I would very much appreciate is some kind of development 
>> schedule.  For example
>>   - Some kind of general roadmap
>>   - a plan for when 0.4 and future releases will come
>>   - Any plans to switch to a regular schedule?  (yearly, six
>>     months, ...) 
>>   - What features remain before a 1.0 release?
>>   - When will following arrive?
>>     > faster compilation
>>     > pre-compiled modules
>>     > Interactive debugging; line numbers for all errors
>>     > Automatic reload on file modification.
>>     > Solving P=NP
>>
>> I know that it's tough to make such a schedule, but anything that you can 
>> provide would be helpful. Also, I'd be happy for something like a weekly 
>> update; or a weekly blog post to help those who don't peruse this group in 
>> depth each day.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 10, 2014 5:41:35 AM UTC-8, Tamas Papp wrote:
>>
>> From the discussion, it looks like that homepages for programming 
>> languages (and realed projects) serve two purposes: 
>>
>> A. provide resources for the existing users (links to mailing lists, 
>> package directories, documentation, etc) 
>>
>> B. provide information for potential new users (showcasing features of 
>> the language, links to tutorials). 
>>
>> Given that space on the very front page is constrained (in the soft 
>> sense: no one wants pages that go on and on any more), I think that 
>> deciding on a balance between A and B would be a good way to focus the 
>> discussion. 
>>
>> Once we have decided that, we can shamelessly copy good practices. 
>>
>> For example, 
>>
>> 1. the R website emphasizes content for existing users (in a non-flashy 
>> way that I am OK with), with very little material for new users, 
>>
>> 2. about 1/3 of the middle bar on 
>> https://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Haskell is for new users 
>> (explanations/tutorials/etc), the 1/3 is for existing users (specs, 
>> libraries), and the final 1/3 is for both (forums, wiki, etc), 
>>
>> 3. http://new-www.haskell.org/ is mostly caters to potential new users 
>> ("see how great this language is"), 
>>
>> 4. the content of clojure.org is similarly for potential new users, 
>> while the sidebar has links for existing users. 
>>
>> Best, 
>>
>> Tamas 
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 10 2014, Hans W Borchers <hwbor...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>
>> > Look at the R home page. R is one of the most popular languages, and 
>> esp. so 
>> > for statistical and computational applications. A programming language 
>> does 
>> > not need bloated home pages. 
>> > 
>> > I like the old Haskell home page much more than the new one. The new 
>> one 
>> > has 
>> > large, uninformative background pictures and not much information in a 
>> > small 
>> > and readable view. The HaskellWiki front page was much better in that. 
>> It 
>> > may 
>> > not even be decided which version will win. 
>> > 
>> > [Clojure])http://clojure.org/) has a nice, simple and informative home 
>> > page, 
>> > while [Scala](http://www.scala-lang.org/) has overdone it like the new 
>> > Haskell. For other approaches see the [Nim](http://nimrod-lang.org/) - 
>> > formerly 'Nimrod' - and [Nemerle](http://nemerle.org/) home pages. 
>> > 
>> > In the end I feel the condensed form of the Python home page will 
>> attract 
>> > more interest, for example with 'latest news' and 'upcoming events' on 
>> the 
>> > first page.This gives the impression of a lively and engaged community. 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > On Wednesday, December 10, 2014 11:23:37 AM UTC+1, Tim Holy wrote: 
>> >> 
>> >> I like the Haskell one better than the Rust one. 
>> >> 
>> >> --Tim 
>> >> 
>> >> 
>>
>>
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