Maybe I should also express my concern that the concept of IDE is also going through a revolution (e.g. notebook, lightable). They are more natural for dynamic languages. The matlab-like IDE is a bit old fashioned.
On Monday, September 14, 2015 at 10:13:03 AM UTC+2, Sisyphuss wrote: > > Julia is still in its early stage. Even the document is not very > understandable, how can there be a full fledged IDE? (If I remember, Julia > hasn't a debugger yet.) > > This lack differentiates the hardcore hackers and casual programmers > (e.g., me). That's why currently Julia is only a carnival of hackers. > > Me, I'm quite satisfied with Juno, though I can't save the plot produced > by it. > > When the language becomes mature, and has more reception, there will > naturally be an IDE like Spyder mentioned by you. > > > > > On Monday, September 14, 2015 at 8:16:21 AM UTC+2, Uwe Fechner wrote: >> >> While I understand your point, the success of a new programming language >> depends on the availability of a good IDE. Apart from the projects, >> mentioned so far I also want to mention spyder. Integrating Julia support >> would be easy and it would make the transition for Python users easier. >> Not everyone, who needs some programming in for example in science wants >> to become a "hardcore hacker". >> >> https://github.com/spyder-ide/spyder >> >> Am Sonntag, 13. September 2015 23:40:46 UTC+2 schrieb Daniel Carrera: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Saturday, 5 September 2015 21:03:28 UTC+2, kike wrote: >>>> >>>> They say that Julia is a language that is simple and fast with a great >>>> future ... but if they want to extend and reach non-programrs, there is >>>> that make things easier and simple ... that is to say a IDE JuliaEstudio >>>> type. >>>> >>> >>> >>> How do you make a programming language for non-programmers? >>> >>> Look, there is no programming language or IDE in the world that will >>> allow you to write a program without your having to learn programming. Here >>> is my advice: >>> >>> 1) Forget IDEs. Just download a reasonable text editor (e.g. Notepad++ >>> on Windows). >>> >>> 2) Download Julia. >>> >>> 3) Run the Julia interactive shell and go through the manual: >>> >>> http://docs.julialang.org/en/release-0.3/#manual >>> >>> >>> >>>> There are more non-programrs, developers, which means that while for >>>> developers experts is necessary the integration of different languages in >>>> different applications and to work in the cloud, for the non- programrs >>>> with a high-level language fast, convenient to install and also with a >>>> great deal of support from the community in terms of packages that is >>>> Julia, but if you need to do a master to simply install it, something is >>>> amiss. >>>> >>>> This is a comment from a simple non-developer. >>>> >>> >>> Programming languages are designed for programmers. It takes a certain >>> amount of time and effort to learn how to program in any language. Julia is >>> easier to learn than most. >>> >>> Daniel. >>> >>> >>> >>>
