The webstack has seen considerable improvement lately. Mux is the most mature and supported webapp framework at this point.
On Wednesday, September 23, 2015 at 4:58:01 PM UTC-4, Andrei Zh wrote: > > If you are looking for a best in the class libraries, you probably won't > find many. This is implied by a simple fact that most such libraries had > already been created in other languages by the time Julia was born. > However, if you want something comparable to such best libraries, then I > would stress the following areas (from my experience and highly > subjectively, of course): > > * image processing (e.g. Images.jl, ImageView.jl), which still changes, > but has quite impressive functionality already > * deep learning (e.g. Mocha.jl, Strada.jl, Boltzmann.jl) - fast, full > functional, easy to use and modify libraries (compare to frameworks in C++ > or Theano, for example) > * concurrent, parallel and distributed programming (core Julia) - far > behind Python or R, probably comparable with Erlang > * GPU computing (see JuliaGPU organization) - pretty convenient, > especially combined with Julia's compilation to native code > * symbolic and metaprogramming (macros, Calculus.jl) - like Lisp with > infix notation or SymPy, built in the language > > I also expect that Julia will become more popular with development of new > areas for which there are no good libraries at all and Julia may become > perfect solution. At the same time, to keep people involved, we not only > need to add more strengths, but also remove weaknesses. And Julia's web > stack seems to be one of the biggest weaknesses, so if you are interested > and wish to contribute, please, do it. > > > On Wednesday, September 23, 2015 at 5:03:02 PM UTC+3, Páll Haraldsson > wrote: >> >> On Wednesday, September 23, 2015 at 12:35:47 PM UTC, Randy Zwitch wrote: >>> >>> Julia is as capable as any of the languages you have mentioned as far as >>> I'm concerned. When I read "people want to get work done", I read that as >>> "people want SOMEONE ELSE to do the work". >>> >> >> And you would be absolutely right. I tried to phrase the question in a >> positive way with "and help needed?" [For me, that would be mostly non-math >> stuff*, and I've submitted some trivial/beginner.. fixes.] I'm ok with >> that as I am just tinkering. Imagine Julia had no libraries, as at first >> then I would have been as exited about the language. It is a language that >> makes me think differently and try new paradigms I haven't tried before >> (multiple dispatch). >> >> I might have tried to build a website (and web server from scratch). Some >> people do not want to be early adopters. I can understand that. I'm not so >> sure you would be by now. I'm asking about the "ecosystem" not the language >> per se. I know about JuliaQuant, BioJulia, GPU stuff in Julia JuliaWeb etc. >> I am so grateful for what has already been done with the language - and the >> libraries from what I can see. If there where my fields, I think I would >> jump on Julia right now. >> >> I'm not sure why people are reluctant, I want to tell them you do not >> only have basic building blocks (linear algebra/matrix multiplication, FFT >> etc. stuff in Base), but also these libraries that (mostly) work, and if >> not you can help fix/contribute. I do not want to oversell Julia, so I keep >> quiet (mostly) about stuff I'm ignorant about.. >> >> >> * I knew about say, Morsel (Sinatra-like), then Mux is recommended over >> it. I'm not sure, it seems to be a replacement/also Sinatra-style. I've >> never used "full web frameworks". PHP isn't my favorite language and while >> I'm sure Python (or Ruby) is nice for web stuff I'm willing to use Julia >> even if there is (short term) pain/learning experience.. I would want to be >> able to do what is needed in pure Julia. Even knowing about future >> direction is helpful, there might be some duplication of effort and you >> might end up fixing the wrong package.. A list of packages to use/focus on >> for helping with would be helpful in this and the other two areas. >> >> > Julia probably isn't the place for them now >> >> Are at least some of the packages ready and used in production already? >> >> -- >> Palli. >> >>
