actually a question: Larry, Michael: Did somebody change the zoombar behaviour - so that it starts zoom on release and not in between, when the bar is still moved?
This would be necessary if we take over the rendering improvements from skyjump - otherwise it may stop the system for some minutes because it re-renders every bar step trigger. stefan BTW: i would like to thank you: Larry, Michael and Sascha and the others.. you start now talking about important mods, where i dont have a clue what you are actually talking about (i am not a IT guy ;o) BTW: i plan to submit my thesis by mid-end of june.. so then i will have more time again Larry Becker schrieb: > Michaël, > > I agree that PlugInContext is probably not appropriate in the model. > I changed mine to WorkbenchContext since SkyJUMP no longer allows Task > Cloning because it was buggy. Now that I think of it, the bugs might > have been related to the issue of disposing of cloned references. > > regards, > Larry > > On 5/22/07, *Michaël Michaud* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > > Larry Becker a écrit : > > > Michaël, > > Looks like a good plan on the SkyJUMP+OpenJUMP+Synchronization > wiki > > page. The priorities seem reasonable to me given OJ's goals. The > > decimation optimization is implicit in line: points = > > j2D.toViewCoordinates (linestring.getCoordinates()); since that just > > calls the previously modified routine. > > Thanks, one of my next tasks, for sure > > > Maybe (Layer layer) should be (Object contentID) in: public void > > removeLayerRenderer(Layer layer){ > > Seems a good idea, I'll follow this advice > > I tested your fix and found one bad case : > If you cloned your task (don't know if you kept this feature in > SkyJUMP), there still may be a memory leak > > Here's how I fixed it in LayerManager > > // Firstly, I changed PlugInContext to WorkbenchFrame in the signature > //because I think a class in the model package should no use a class > from > //plugin package (may be not important...) > public void dispose(WorkbenchFrame frame, Layerable layerable) { > // removing ALL LayerRenderers for this Layer > JInternalFrame[] internalFrames = frame.getInternalFrames (); > for (int i = 0 ; i < internalFrames.length ; i++) { > JInternalFrame internalFrame = internalFrames[i]; > if (internalFrame instanceof LayerViewPanelProxy) { > ((LayerViewPanelProxy)internalFrame).getLayerViewPanel() > > .getRenderingManager() > > .removeLayerRenderer(layerable); > } > } > > Michaël > > > > > Larry > > > > > > On 5/21/07, *Michaël Michaud* < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > > Hi Michaël, > > > You are one step ahead of me. I had just reached the same > > > conclusion and did the mods to remove the references and it > worked. > > > > You are a step ahead of me because I still have to do the > mods ;-) > > Thanks for giving classes to modify > > > > Do you know that I started to compile the mods you did in > skyjump on > > http://openjump.org/wiki/show/SkyJUMP+-+OpenJUMP+Synchronization > > > <http://openjump.org/wiki/show/SkyJUMP+-+OpenJUMP+Synchronization > <http://openjump.org/wiki/show/SkyJUMP+-+OpenJUMP+Synchronization>> ? > > and I did my first synchro yesterday with the union plugin... > > Maybe I'll have question if I go on with more complex > improvements... > > > > Sunburned, here is a 5 minutes tutorial for heap analysis : > > > http://blog.emptyway.com/2007/04/02/finding-memory-leaks-in-java-apps/ > > > > Michaël > > > > > The mods are: > > > > > > In RemoveSelectedLayersPlugin: > > > public boolean execute(PlugInContext context) throws > Exception { > > > remove(context, (Layerable[]) > > > ( context.getLayerNamePanel()).selectedNodes( > > > > > > In LayerManager: > > > public void dispose(PlugInContext context, Layerable > layerable) { > > > // removing the reference to layer > > > > > > > context.getLayerViewPanel().getRenderingManager().removeLayerRenderer(layer); > > > > > > In RenderManager: > > > public void removeLayerRenderer(Layer layer){ > > > contentIDToRendererMap.remove (layer); > > > } > > > > > > I'm struck by the coincidence of SS's post on rendering > juxtaposed > > > with David's post. > > > > > > regards, > > > Larry Becker > > > On 5/21/07, *Michaël Michaud* < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > <mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>>> wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I think I get it ; > > > > > > Here is what I obtained after a dump of jump's memory > > > I loaded a shapefile, I deleted it from the menu, then > I made a > > > dump of > > > the the heap > > > in order to get the objects dependency graph with the jhat > > analyser : > > > > > > My 10 BasicFeatures are held in a list > > > which in turn is referenced by a Collections$SingletonMap > > > referenced by a SimpleFeatureCollectionRenderer > > > referenced by a LayerRenderer > > > referenced by a HashMap > > > referenced by the RenderingManager > > > > > > What happens is that the rendering system has a kind of > cache > > > (layerToFeaturesMap in SimpleFeatureRenderer) > > > which behaviour may be revealed by the following > experience : > > > > > > load a shapefile --> 50 Mo commited (data + rendering) > > > remove it --> 50 Mo commited (data + rendering) > > > > > > now > > > > > > load the shapefile --> 50 Mo commited (data + rendering) > > > pan until shapefile > > > is no more visible --> 45 Mo or so (just the data) > > > remove layer --> 10 Mo (no more data in the cache, > > memory is > > > free) > > > > > > but > > > > > > load the shapefile --> 50 Mo commited (data + rendering) > > > remove the layer --> 50 Mo > > > pan --> 50 Mo or so (cached data is > > prisonner !!) > > > > > > Hope that's help > > > > > > Michaël > > > > > > > > > > > > Sunburned Surveyor a écrit : > > > > > > > This may be a really stupid thing to suggest, but I'll > > throw it out > > > > there anyways. > > > > > > > > In JUMP there is a LayerListener interface defined. Is it > > possible > > > > that a plug-in would implement this interface in a > way that > > > would hold > > > > onto a reference to a Layer object? > > > > > > > > For instance, I see that both the LayerEvent and > FeatureEvent > > > classes > > > > allow you to obtain a reference to a Layer > and/orLayerable. I > > > think a > > > > plug-in could [1] register itself as a LayerListener, [2] > > obtain a > > > > reference to a Layer object when it receives either a > > LayerEvent or > > > > FeatureEvent, and [3] keep a reference to the Layer > object > > until the > > > > plug-in is destroyed. > > > > > > > > If the problem behavior described is inconsistent it > could > > be a > > > > plug-in that is not alwaysor commonly used. > > > > > > > > This is just a suggestion. My work on the pluggable > > rendering system > > > > has demonstrated how little I know about Java programming > > in general > > > > and JUMP in particular. :] > > > > > > > > The Sunburned Surveyor > > > > > > > > On 5/21/07, *A. Craig West* < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>> > > > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > > <mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > > > It seems likely that there are stale references > somewhere, > > > then. I > > > > remember an older version of the GridBagLayout > used to > > have > > > a bug > > > > where all obljects added to it were hung onto for > the life > > > of the > > > > GBL, because the remove code didn't take > refernces out > > of an > > > > internal Hashtable. Has anybody tried something like > > JProbe > > > on the > > > > problem? I've had a fair amount of success with that > > in the > > > past. > > > > Conveniently, I now work for the company that wrote > > JProbe, > > > so I'm > > > > sure I can give it a go, if nobody else has... > > > > -Craig > > > > > > > > On 5/21/07, *david alejandro garcia ortega* < > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > > <mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>> > > > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > <mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > <mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>>>> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > I think is a problem with the code, like Larry > > says , i > > > think > > > > is possible to free memory but the gc() doesn´t > > work because > > > > there are references to the Layer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > DAVID GARCIA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > From: /"Larry Becker" < > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > > > <mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>> > > > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > <mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>> >>/ > > > > Reply-To: /"List for discussion of JPP > > development and > > > > use." < > jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > <mailto:jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> > > <mailto:jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > <mailto:jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>> > > > <mailto:jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > <mailto:jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> > > <mailto:jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > <mailto:jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>>> > > > > <mailto: > > jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > <mailto:jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> > > <mailto: jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > <mailto:jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>> > > > <mailto:jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > <mailto:jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> > > <mailto: jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > <mailto:jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>>>>>/ > > > > To: /"List for discussion of JPP > development and > > > use." < > > > > jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > <mailto:jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> > > <mailto:jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > <mailto:jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>> > > > <mailto: jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > <mailto:jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> > > <mailto:jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > <mailto:jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>>> > > > > > <mailto:jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > <mailto:jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> > > <mailto: jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > <mailto:jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>> > > > <mailto: jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > <mailto:jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> > > <mailto: jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > <mailto:jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>>>>>/ > > > > Subject: /Re: [JPP-Devel] Question?/ > > > > Date: /Mon, 21 May 2007 11:55:47 -0500/ > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Craig, > > > > > > > > Good point, however if you close the task > > > (project) all > > > > memory is reclaimed, so it would seem to be > > possible to > > > > reclaim it by removing a layer. > > > > > > > > Larry > > > > > > > > On 5/21/07, *A. Craig West* < > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <mailto: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>> > > > > <mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > > > <mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > > > Do we know if this is a problem with > > references > > > being > > > > hung onto > > > > internally, or just the standard Java VM > > behavior > > > > where the Java VM > > > > normally doesn't return memory to the OS? > > > > -Craig > > > > > > > > On 5/21/07, Stefan Steiniger < > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> <mailto: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>> > > > > <mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > <mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>>>> > > wrote: > > > >> hei David, > > > >> > > > >> in case you don't know > > > >> what sometimes can help a bit is to press the > > > > "garbage collect" button > > > >> of the help/about/info tab > > > >> > > > >> but only sometimes :I > > > >> > > > >> stefan > > > >> > > > >> david alejandro garcia ortega schrieb: > > > >> > Thanks Larry i will try to find a solution to the > > > > problem. > > > >> > > > > >> > DAVID GARCIA > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > >> > From: /"Larry Becker" < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>> > > > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > <mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>> >>/ > > > >> > Reply-To: /"List for discussion of JPP > > > > development and use." > > > >> > < jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > <mailto:jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> > > <mailto:jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > <mailto:jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>> > > > <mailto: jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > <mailto:jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> > > <mailto:jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > <mailto:jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>>> > > > > > > <mailto: jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > <mailto:jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> > > <mailto:jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > <mailto:jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>> > > > <mailto: jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > <mailto:jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> > > <mailto:jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > <mailto:jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>>>>>/ > > > >> > To: /"List for discussion of JPP development > > > > and use." > > > >> > < jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > <mailto:jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> > > <mailto:jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > <mailto:jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>> > > > <mailto: jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > <mailto:jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> > > <mailto:jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > <mailto:jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>>> > > > > <mailto: > > jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > <mailto:jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> > > <mailto:jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > <mailto:jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>> > > > <mailto:jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > <mailto:jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> > > <mailto:jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > <mailto:jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>>>>>/ > > > >> > Subject: /Re: [JPP-Devel] Question?/ > > > >> > Date: /Mon, 21 May 2007 11:03:03 -0500/ > > > >> > > > > >> > Hi David, > > > >> > > > > >> > Welcome to the list. That is an excellent > > > > question. I wish I had > > > >> > an answer for you, but it is one of the > > > > unsolved problems with JUMP > > > >> > (all flavors I believe). In my tests, it is > > > > not even consistent. > > > >> > Sometimes removing a layer will free most of > > > > the memory, but usually > > > >> > it will not. > > > >> > > > > >> > There have been attempts made to fix the > > > > problem in OpenJump. See > > > >> > : > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > com.vividsolutions.jump.workbench.ui.plugin.RemoveSelectedLayersPlugIn > > > >> > method remove(Layerable[]) which calls > > > >> > > > > > > > > > selectedLayers[i].getLayerManager().dispose(selectedLayers[i]) > > > > and > > > >> > does everything you could reasonably expect, > > > > however much of the > > > >> > memory, usually all of it, is still committed > > > > after this code runs. > > > >> > > > > >> > Apparently some plugin(s) still have references > > > > to the disposed > > > >> > layers. Probably via a listener of some kind, > > > > but no one has ever > > > >> > tracked down the problem. > > > >> > > > > >> > David, you would be doing a great service to > > > > the whole JUMP > > > >> > community if you could find the solution to > > > > this problem. > > > >> > > > > >> > regards, > > > >> > Larry Becker > > > >> > > > > >> > On 5/21/07, *david alejandro garcia ortega* < > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > > > <mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>> > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>>> > > > >> > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>> > > > > <mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > > > <mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>>>>> wrote: > > > >> > > > > >> > Hi I am working with the source code of > > > > OpenJump and i have the > > > >> > following question: > > > >> > > > > >> > When I load a dataset(shapefile) commited > > > > memory is about > > > >> > 150Mb, then when I remove the dataset the > > > > commited memory is > > > >> > about 140Mb. Why doesn´t memory free? > > > >> > > > > >> > I want to free memory when the layer is > > > > turned invisible calling > > > >> > dispose() of layer class, and when is > > > > turned visible I load the > > > >> > featurecollection again. 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