>What are the candidate features for xxx_text layer ?

I'm not sure exactly.  ESRI does it, so it must be smart, right?  :-)

I guess I was mostly thinking of DXF imported layers.  I'm not sure it makes
as much sense in a stand-alone plugin, but I'll give the use case a try:
features that are currently displaying non-null labels.  In other words, if
labeling is turned on, and the label attribute for the feature is not the ""
string, then copy the feature to the _text layer and enable the label style
for the destination.

Larry



On 10/3/07, Michaël Michaud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Very good Larry,
> Just a question about text part :
> What is the concept behind annotation ?
> I know that many famous formats as DXF, MIF/MID, GeoConcept... have a
> text type, but I'm not a big fan of this. IMHO, displaying text is the
> "style" purpose and not a geometry type problem, but I may have missed
> some use cases.
> What are the candidate features for xxx_text layer ?
>
> Thanks
>
> Michaël
>
>
> Larry Becker a écrit :
>
> > Making a generic capability to break out a layer into linestrings,
> > polygons, points, and annotation is an excellent idea.  If you recall,
> > I tried to port over the capability to do this with the shapefiles
> > version of SkyJUMP's enhanced Save Selected Datasets command.  Perhaps
> > the best way to do this is to refactor this capability out as a
> > separate class and plugin.
> >
> > I'll add this to my to-do list.  Does anyone have specific use cases?
> > I'm assuming that the command would leave the original layer alone,
> > and create new layers for each of the geometry types mentioned above.
> > It would use the original layer name and append _line, _area, _point,
> > or _text  (internationalized).  Does this sound reasonable?
> >
> > The menu might say something like, "Extract geometry types to separate
> > layers", if that isn't too lengthy.
> >
> > regards,
> > Larry
> >
> > On 10/3/07, * Michaël Michaud* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
> >
> >     Larry Becker a écrit :
> >
> >     > Hi Michaël,
> >     >
> >     >   As I might have mentioned before, we use your dxf plugin
> >     > extensively.  I have been meaning to write that auto-style script
> >     > too.  Hope you get it done first  :-)  There are some issues with
> >     > styling text, since you don't usually want the point displayed,
> and
> >     > also, by default, the text centers on the point instead of left
> >     > justifying.  In fact, I added the new label style left
> >     justification
> >     > for just this purpose.
> >
> >     Hi, it seems that reproducing the exact DXF layout may be more
> >     difficult
> >     than what I have thought.
> >
> >     >
> >     >   This introduces an item on my dxf wish list.  ESRI's DXF import
> >     > automatically places text, points, linestrings, and polygons on
> >     their
> >     > own layer.  I don't know of a precedent for this in JUMP, but I
> >     don't
> >     > see why it isn't possible, do you?  Clearly it would make
> automated
> >     > styling easier.
> >
> >     IMHO, OpenJUMP has the great advantage to be able to manage
> >     heterogeneous layers, and this capability must be used to preserve
> >     imported file structure as close as possible to the source one (DXF,
> >     MIF/MID) .
> >     Dispatching features in different layers according to their
> >     geometry (or
> >     to an attribute value) is a generic need which should be
> >     developped in a
> >     separate plugin (not included in the driver). A plugin already
> >     exists to
> >     select features with a specific geometry type. Developping another
> one
> >     to create a layer by geometry type should not be too hard.
> >
> >     For DXF layers, I must admit that dispatching features from
> different
> >     DXF layers into different OpenJUMP layers should take place in the
> >     driver. It is just a bit more work to load features from a single
> file
> >     into several layers. On the other hand, dispatching loaded features
> >     using an attribute value is also an easy thing, and I already
> >     developped
> >     a plugin to do that (this can also be considered as a generic
> >     function,
> >     and can be useful in other situations).
> >
> >     Michael
> >
> >     >
> >     > regards,
> >     >
> >     > Larry
> >     >
> >     > On 10/1/07, *Michaël Michaud* < [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >     > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>> wrote:
> >     >
> >     >     Hi Peppe,
> >     >
> >     >     I read your page about CAD. Good documentation !
> >     >     Here are some propositions to be more precise about what the
> >     >     driver can
> >     >     do and what it cannot :
> >     >     - subset of supported geometries features  (ex. POINT,
> >     >     POLYLINE..., I'll
> >     >     check that)
> >     >     - list of dxf feature attributes imported (COLOR,
> THICKNESS...,
> >     >     see the
> >     >     schema of an imported dxf file)
> >     >     - more precise description of how polylines are imported :
> >     the DXF
> >     >     "closed" field is used to know if geometries have to be
> >     imported as
> >     >     polygons or as polylines. This way the parser can make a
> >     difference
> >     >     between a closed line (a polyline with identical first and
> >     last points
> >     >     but without the closed dxf attribute) and a polygon (a
> >     closed polyline
> >     >     with the closed attribute) : to test it, you can draw a
> >     polygon and a
> >     >     closed polyline in jump, export it in dxf and import it back
> >     into
> >     >     jump.
> >     >     - we should also write that the plugin is able to "export"
> >     DXF files
> >     >     from OpenJUMP, even if this is less useful than importing cad
> >     >     drawings.
> >     >     - I did not test all the dxf version you considered (8 to
> >     >     14/2002). Hope
> >     >     that works. The driver is based on an old version of DXF
> >     >     specification
> >     >     (10 or 12, don't remember exactly). Most of new features are
> >     simply
> >     >     ignored. One major limitation is about local coordinates :
> >     if some
> >     >     objects in the drawing are described in a local coordinate
> >     system, the
> >     >     parser will ignore that and use them as if they were absolute
> >     >     coordinates.
> >     >
> >     >     I read attributes such as color and thickness as normal jump
> >     >     attributes
> >     >     because basically, a jump driver read geometries and
> attributes,
> >     >     not styles.
> >     >     But reading your paper, I thought that it should not be too
> >     >     difficult to
> >     >     write a script which can apply styles to dxf-layers using
> their
> >     >     dxf-attributes (I'll give this a try)
> >     >
> >     >     Michaël
> >     >
> >     >     Giuseppe Aruta a écrit :
> >     >
> >     >     > Hi Michael,
> >     >     > I wrote a small tutorial about CAD files
> >     >     > (http://openjump.org/wiki/show/CAD+Tutorial).
> >     >     > I did some consideration about your DXF plugin, I would
> >     >     like  you give
> >     >     > it  a look (maybe I made some  mistakes about it).
> >     >     >
> >     >     > Thanks
> >     >     >
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> >     >     >
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