I believe the Manifest currently being generated includes all of the lib
entries.  You can run the jar directly, but there is still the issue of the
"-properties" and "-plug-in-directory" command line parameters, not to
mention the "-Xms512M", etc. Java OPTS.

I can build an executable "batch file runner" using AutoIt, but some virus
programs will flag it too for the same reasons already mentioned.  On the
other hand, SkyJUMP uses a modified version of the Eclipse runner app, which
is (theoretically) cross platform.  However the ini file it uses gives far
less control over options than some users would like.  It would seem that
there is no perfect, or even good solution for launching Java apps.

regards,
Larry

On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 11:02 AM, <edgar.sol...@web.de> wrote:

> well,
>
> it is a tradeoff,
>
> pro is the execution of the batch file which allows to change the
> runtime environment startup variables (even after the startup exe is
> already created)
> con is the probable false detection because a windows binary tries to
> start a batch file ...
>
> What is really needed is a configurable launcher. Recent java runtime
> environments setup windows and others to execute jars if a correct
> manifest file is included. Maybe we should stop using platform specific
> workarounds to build classpaths and add memory variables and implement
> this in a pure java launcher?
>
> ... ede
>
>
> On 14.09.2009 17:07, Sunburned Surveyor wrote:
> > This really stinks.
> >
> > Has anyone tried a program like JSmooth?
> >
> > http://jsmooth.sourceforge.net/
> >
> > Or Janel?
> >
> > http://www.redskaper.com/Janel.jsp
> >
> > I know just enough C programming to be really dangerous. In the worst
> > case scenario I could try whipping up a native launcher for OJ. I'd
> > probably try it first on Linux, and then on MS Windows.
> >
> > The Sunburned Surveyor
> >
> > On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Giuseppe Aruta
> > <giuseppe_ar...@yahoo.it>  wrote:
> >> For me it is OK to replace or to eliminate the OJ.exe file
> >>
> >> Peppe
> >>
> >> --- Dom 13/9/09, edgar.sol...@web.de<edgar.sol...@web.de>  ha scritto:
> >>
> >>> Da: edgar.sol...@web.de<edgar.sol...@web.de>
> >>> Oggetto: Re: [JPP-Devel] Virus/Spyware 'Troj/Agent-KRQ' in OpenJump 1.3
> zip file
> >>> A: "OpenJump develop and use"<jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
> >>> Data: Domenica 13 settembre 2009, 13:31
> >>> Downloaded the recent version of the
> >>> converter and redid peppe's steps...
> >>> interestingly the result still has some hits, obviously the
> >>> way of
> >>> executing a batch file during run time is something some
> >>> malware does
> >>> similarly.
> >>> Also the resulting exe file is UPX packed, which is often
> >>> regarded as
> >>> suspicious, because viruses often try to cloak themselves
> >>> by that.
> >>> http://is.gd/3dvL6
> >>>
> >>> and a more frightening result from the online conversion
> >>> also offered on
> >>> the site
> >>> http://is.gd/3dxKU
> >>>
> >>> As I don't know anything about the author of the tool, it
> >>> is
> >>> unfortunately not trustworthy and even if these are just
> >>> false alarms
> >>> (seems probable, because of the differing results,
> >>> especially in case
> >>> one above) I don't think the project should take the risk
> >>> of delivering
> >>> viruses.
> >>> This leaves to suggest - the binary should be removed from
> >>> the
> >>> distribution.
> >>>
> >>> I additionally searched for a replacement and found
> >>> http://www.abyssmedia.com/quickbfc/
> >>> which seems to come without UPX compression and only 3 hits
> >>> on
> >>> virustotal, from which 2 are heuristical. This could be
> >>> candidate for a
> >>> replacement.
> >>> http://is.gd/3dzL6
> >>>
> >>> .. regards ede
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 13.09.2009 07:28, Giuseppe Aruta wrote:
> >>>> Hi all,
> >>>> I am still out for work so I cannot take time for
> >>> Oenjump.
> >>>> oj.exe: I create a script with only one line
> >>> "openjump.bat", save as oj.bat, and transform nto oj.ee
> >>> using "bat to exe converter" by f2ko "
> http://www.f2ko.de/English/index.php";.
> >>>>
> >>>> Peppe
> >>>>
> >>>> --- Mar 8/9/09, Michaël Michaud<michael.mich...@free.fr>
> >>> ha scritto:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Da: Michaël Michaud<michael.mich...@free.fr>
> >>>>> Oggetto: Re: [JPP-Devel] Virus/Spyware
> >>> 'Troj/Agent-KRQ' in OpenJump 1.3 zip file
> >>>>> A: "OpenJump develop and use"<jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
> >
> >>>>> Data: Martedì 8 settembre 2009, 23:33
> >>>>> Hi Stefan, Peppe,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I also get a message from my antivirus because of
> >>> OJ.exe:
> >>>>> My antivirus (antivir) says it is :
> >>> TR/Crypt.ULPM.Gen -
> >>>>> Trojan
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I don't worry much about it, but let's see with
> >>> Peppe how
> >>>>> the OJ.exe has
> >>>>> been made and if the alert can be removed by
> >>> creating a new
> >>>>> exe.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Michaël
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Stefan Steiniger a écrit :
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> mhm..
> >>>>>>
> http://www.virustotal.com/analisis/ef8f87e0ebaa203a51f98e1d1e6b68af68ca2ac1b2513181ede852268cceebd0-1252436424
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> not sure what this means.
> >>>>>> Actually somebody uploaded it before I did
> >>> already
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> stefan
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> edgar.sol...@web.de
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> What does virustotal.com has to say about
> >>> it? ..
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>> Probably a mismatch
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> because of the executing external code
> >>> routine.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> .. ede
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 07.09.2009 16:12, Rahkonen Jukka
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> My OJ.exe has been on my disk for
> >>> several
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>
> >>>>> months but just a few weeks ago eTrust Antivirus
> >>> gave the
> >>>>> first virus alarm. F-Secure Client Security is not
> >>> worried
> >>>>> at all. I do not know if it is a false alarm or
> >>> not.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>> -Jukka Rahkonen-
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>> -----Alkuperäinen viesti-----
> >>>>>>>>> Lähettäjä: Malte Weller
> >>> [mailto:wel...@umwelt.uni-hannover.de]
> >>>>>>>>> Lähetetty: 7. syyskuuta 2009
> >>> 15:18
> >>>>>>>>> Vastaanottaja: OpenJump develop
> >>> and use
> >>>>>>>>> Aihe: [JPP-Devel] Virus/Spyware
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>
> >>>>> 'Troj/Agent-KRQ' in OpenJump
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> 1.3 zip file
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I just downloaded version 1.3 (zip
> >>> and
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>
> >>>>> source files) from
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> SourceForge and my Sophos
> >>> antivirus
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>
> >>>>> software informed me
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> about a trojan
> >>>>>>>>> (Troj/Agent-KRQ) in the OJ.exe
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>
> >>>>> (openjump-1.3\bin\OJ.exe).
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Can someone else confirm this?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Greetings from Hanover.
> >>>>>>>>> Malte
> >>>>>>>>>
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