That is an impressive bit of Windows API programming. It scares the crap out of this little hobby Java programmer.
Nice job Larry. Don't know that I will be duplicating that anytime soon. :] I wish there was a book that explained how to better integrate Java applications into MS Windows and Linux desktop environments with C code. That is a book I would pay to have on my bookshelf. Landon On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 6:02 AM, Larry Becker <becker.la...@gmail.com> wrote: > See: startJavaVM in: > http://skyjump.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/skyjump/skyjump/launcher/library/win32/eclipseWin.c?view=markup > > regards, > Larry > > On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 4:35 AM, <edgar.sol...@web.de> wrote: >> >> beside the lobbying for their AOT compiler a very decent overview. >> Thanks a lot! >> How does SkyJump change JRE parameters or such currently modified in the >> batch file? >> >> ... ede >> >> >> On 15.09.2009 23:28, Larry Becker wrote: >> > Here is an article that thoroughly explains the choices: >> > >> > http://www.excelsior-usa.com/articles/java-to-exe.html >> > >> > I think the best option for OJ is to go back to installing a desktop >> > shortcut that runs the .bat file. I can't see what advantages the .exe >> > has >> > in OJ. SkyJUMP's exe gives it drag and drop and double-click for shape >> > files and project files. >> > >> > Larry >> > >> > On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Sunburned Surveyor< >> > sunburned.surve...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> >> Javadoc for the Process class: >> >> >> >> http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/docs/api/java/lang/Process.html >> >> >> >> Javadoc for the Runtime class: >> >> >> >> http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/docs/api/java/lang/Runtime.html >> >> >> >> SS >> >> >> >> On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 8:41 AM, Sunburned Surveyor >> >> <sunburned.surve...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> This has been a good discussion. I think there are only (at this >> >>> point) two reasonable solutions: >> >>> >> >>> (1) Keep using the batch file. >> >>> (2) Code a custom executable "launcher" for OpenJUMP in the C >> >>> programming language. This launcher would read a configuration file >> >>> and launch OJ in the JVM. We'd have to compile the C code for each >> >>> operating system, but we've got to maintain separate launch scripts >> >>> right now anyways. >> >>> >> >>> Here is another "theoretical solution": >> >>> >> >>> Write a launcher in Java that parses the configuration file and then >> >>> uses the Runtime object to execute OpenJUMP with the specified >> >>> parameters. >> >>> >> >>> This approach would be easier for me to code than a launcher in C, but >> >>> I don't know if it would work. (I think it would.) The downside is >> >>> that it would require that two (2) JVM's be running for OpenJUMP (one >> >>> for the launcher and one for the actual program) unless I find a way >> >>> to shutdown the launcher. Maybe this isn't a problem, since OJ may >> >>> continue running after the launcher's main method terminates. Here is >> >>> what the Javadoc for the Process class says: >> >>> >> >>> "The subprocess is not killed when there are no more references to the >> >>> Process object, but rather the subprocess continues executing >> >>> asynchronously." >> >>> >> >>> Has anyone fooled with this way of launching Java programs before? >> >>> >> >>> I can try coding a Java launcher. It would probably take me a couple >> >>> days (after work or on lunch breaks). A launcher in C will take me a >> >>> week or two. >> >>> >> >>> The Sunburned Surveyor >> >>> >> >>> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 11:11 PM, Rahkonen Jukka >> >>> <jukka.rahko...@mmmtike.fi> wrote: >> >>>> Hi, >> >>>> >> >>>> For a user like me who must always edit openjump.bat file manually at >> >> least for adding proxy settings OJ.exe does not give much extra. It >> >> would be >> >> nice if program launcher had some kind of configuration assistant for >> >> setting proxy and Java settings and perhaps logging level as well. >> >>>> >> >>>> -Jukka Rahkonen- >> >>>> >> >>>>> -----Alkuperäinen viesti----- >> >>>>> Lähettäjä: Stefan Steiniger [mailto:sst...@geo.uzh.ch] >> >>>>> Lähetetty: 15. syyskuuta 2009 8:40 >> >>>>> Vastaanottaja: OpenJump develop and use >> >>>>> Aihe: Re: [JPP-Devel] Virus/Spyware 'Troj/Agent-KRQ' in >> >>>>> OpenJump 1.3 zip file >> >>>>> >> >>>>> thanks for the analysis Ede and the comments (Larry et al). >> >>>>> Not sure what we are going to do - as I think the risk of a >> >>>>> virus is probably small. The question is how to check that >> >>>>> properly (with minimal effort ;) A network sniffer? >> >>>>> >> >>>>> btw. for the earlier versions of OJ.exe we used jsmooth >> >>>>> already. But, as others pointed out: Then we can not use the >> >>>>> *.bat file for configuration, which is really nice right now. >> >>>>> Setting up a proper ini system is something above my skills >> >>>>> by now... unfortunately >> >>>>> >> >>>>> my 2 cents (although a bit biased, avoiding to make a new >> >>>>> release ;) stefan >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Larry Becker schrieb: >> >>>>>> I believe the Manifest currently being generated includes >> >>>>> all of the >> >>>>>> lib entries. You can run the jar directly, but there is still the >> >>>>>> issue of the "-properties" and "-plug-in-directory" command line >> >>>>>> parameters, not to mention the "-Xms512M", etc. Java OPTS. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> I can build an executable "batch file runner" using AutoIt, >> >>>>> but some >> >>>>>> virus programs will flag it too for the same reasons >> >>>>> already mentioned. >> >>>>>> On the other hand, SkyJUMP uses a modified version of the Eclipse >> >>>>>> runner app, which is (theoretically) cross platform. >> >>>>> However the ini >> >>>>>> file it uses gives far less control over options than some >> >>>>> users would >> >>>>>> like. It would seem that there is no perfect, or even good >> >>>>> solution >> >>>>>> for launching Java apps. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> regards, >> >>>>>> Larry >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 11:02 AM,<edgar.sol...@web.de >> >>>>>> <mailto:edgar.sol...@web.de>> wrote: >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> well, >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> it is a tradeoff, >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> pro is the execution of the batch file which allows to >> >>>>> change the >> >>>>>> runtime environment startup variables (even after the >> >>>>> startup exe is >> >>>>>> already created) >> >>>>>> con is the probable false detection because a windows >> >>>>> binary tries to >> >>>>>> start a batch file ... >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> What is really needed is a configurable launcher. >> >>>>> Recent java runtime >> >>>>>> environments setup windows and others to execute jars >> >>>>> if a correct >> >>>>>> manifest file is included. Maybe we should stop using >> >>>>> platform specific >> >>>>>> workarounds to build classpaths and add memory >> >>>>> variables and implement >> >>>>>> this in a pure java launcher? >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> ... ede >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> On 14.09.2009 17:07, Sunburned Surveyor wrote: >> >>>>>> > This really stinks. >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > Has anyone tried a program like JSmooth? >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > http://jsmooth.sourceforge.net/ >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > Or Janel? >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > http://www.redskaper.com/Janel.jsp >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > I know just enough C programming to be really >> >>>>> dangerous. In the worst >> >>>>>> > case scenario I could try whipping up a native >> >>>>> launcher for OJ. I'd >> >>>>>> > probably try it first on Linux, and then on MS Windows. >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > The Sunburned Surveyor >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Giuseppe Aruta >> >>>>>> > <giuseppe_ar...@yahoo.it >> >>>>> <mailto:giuseppe_ar...@yahoo.it>> wrote: >> >>>>>> >> For me it is OK to replace or to eliminate the OJ.exe >> >>>>>> file >> >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> Peppe >> >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> --- Dom 13/9/09, edgar.sol...@web.de >> >>>>>> <mailto:edgar.sol...@web.de><edgar.sol...@web.de >> >>>>>> <mailto:edgar.sol...@web.de>> ha scritto: >> >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >>> Da: edgar.sol...@web.de >> >>>>>> <mailto:edgar.sol...@web.de><edgar.sol...@web.de >> >>>>>> <mailto:edgar.sol...@web.de>> >> >>>>>> >>> Oggetto: Re: [JPP-Devel] Virus/Spyware 'Troj/Agent-KRQ' >> >>>>>> in >> >>>>>> OpenJump 1.3 zip file >> >>>>>> >>> A: "OpenJump develop and >> >>>>>> use"<jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> >>>>>> <mailto:jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>> >> >>>>>> >>> Data: Domenica 13 settembre 2009, 13:31 >> >>>>>> >>> Downloaded the recent version of the >> >>>>>> >>> converter and redid peppe's steps... >> >>>>>> >>> interestingly the result still has some hits, obviously >> >>>>>> the >> >>>>>> >>> way of >> >>>>>> >>> executing a batch file during run time is something some >> >>>>>> >>> malware does >> >>>>>> >>> similarly. >> >>>>>> >>> Also the resulting exe file is UPX packed, which is >> >>>>>> often >> >>>>>> >>> regarded as >> >>>>>> >>> suspicious, because viruses often try to cloak >> >>>>>> themselves >> >>>>>> >>> by that. >> >>>>>> >>> http://is.gd/3dvL6 >> >>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>> >>> and a more frightening result from the online conversion >> >>>>>> >>> also offered on >> >>>>>> >>> the site >> >>>>>> >>> http://is.gd/3dxKU >> >>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>> >>> As I don't know anything about the author of the tool, >> >>>>>> it >> >>>>>> >>> is >> >>>>>> >>> unfortunately not trustworthy and even if these are just >> >>>>>> >>> false alarms >> >>>>>> >>> (seems probable, because of the differing results, >> >>>>>> >>> especially in case >> >>>>>> >>> one above) I don't think the project should take the >> >>>>>> risk >> >>>>>> >>> of delivering >> >>>>>> >>> viruses. >> >>>>>> >>> This leaves to suggest - the binary should be removed >> >>>>>> from >> >>>>>> >>> the >> >>>>>> >>> distribution. >> >>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>> >>> I additionally searched for a replacement and found >> >>>>>> >>> http://www.abyssmedia.com/quickbfc/ >> >>>>>> >>> which seems to come without UPX compression and only 3 >> >>>>>> hits >> >>>>>> >>> on >> >>>>>> >>> virustotal, from which 2 are heuristical. This could be >> >>>>>> >>> candidate for a >> >>>>>> >>> replacement. >> >>>>>> >>> http://is.gd/3dzL6 >> >>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>> >>> .. regards ede >> >>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>> >>> On 13.09.2009 07:28, Giuseppe Aruta wrote: >> >>>>>> >>>> Hi all, >> >>>>>> >>>> I am still out for work so I cannot take time for >> >>>>>> >>> Oenjump. >> >>>>>> >>>> oj.exe: I create a script with only one line >> >>>>>> >>> "openjump.bat", save as oj.bat, and transform nto oj.ee >> >>>>>> <http://oj.ee> >> >>>>>> >>> using "bat to exe converter" by f2ko >> >>>>>> "http://www.f2ko.de/English/index.php";. >> >>>>>> >>>> >> >>>>>> >>>> Peppe >> >>>>>> >>>> >> >>>>>> >>>> --- Mar 8/9/09, Michaël Michaud<michael.mich...@free.fr >> >>>>>> <mailto:michael.mich...@free.fr>> >> >>>>>> >>> ha scritto: >> >>>>>> >>>> >> >>>>>> >>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>> Da: Michaël Michaud<michael.mich...@free.fr >> >>>>>> <mailto:michael.mich...@free.fr>> >> >>>>>> >>>>> Oggetto: Re: [JPP-Devel] Virus/Spyware >> >>>>>> >>> 'Troj/Agent-KRQ' in OpenJump 1.3 zip file >> >>>>>> >>>>> A: "OpenJump develop and >> >>>>>> use"<jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> >>>>>> <mailto:jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>> >> >>>>>> >>>>> Data: Martedì 8 settembre 2009, 23:33 >> >>>>>> >>>>> Hi Stefan, Peppe, >> >>>>>> >>>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>> I also get a message from my antivirus because of >> >>>>>> >>> OJ.exe: >> >>>>>> >>>>> My antivirus (antivir) says it is : >> >>>>>> >>> TR/Crypt.ULPM.Gen - >> >>>>>> >>>>> Trojan >> >>>>>> >>>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>> I don't worry much about it, but let's see with >> >>>>>> >>> Peppe how >> >>>>>> >>>>> the OJ.exe has >> >>>>>> >>>>> been made and if the alert can be removed by >> >>>>>> >>> creating a new >> >>>>>> >>>>> exe. >> >>>>>> >>>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>> Michaël >> >>>>>> >>>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>> Stefan Steiniger a écrit : >> >>>>>> >>>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>> mhm.. >> >>>>>> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>> http://www.virustotal.com/analisis/ef8f87e0ebaa203a51f98e1d1e6 >> >>>>> b68af68ca2ac1b2513181ede852268cceebd0-1252436424 >> >>>>>> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>> not sure what this means. >> >>>>>> >>>>>> Actually somebody uploaded it before I did >> >>>>>> >>> already >> >>>>>> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>> stefan >> >>>>>> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>> edgar.sol...@web.de<mailto:edgar.sol...@web.de> >> >>>>>> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>> >>>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>>> What does virustotal.com >> >>>>> <http://virustotal.com> has to say >> >>>>>> about >> >>>>>> >>> it? .. >> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>> Probably a mismatch >> >>>>>> >>>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>>> because of the executing external code >> >>>>>> >>> routine. >> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>>> .. ede >> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 07.09.2009 16:12, Rahkonen Jukka >> >>>>>> >>> wrote: >> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi, >> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> My OJ.exe has been on my disk for >> >>>>>> >>> several >> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>> >>>>> months but just a few weeks ago eTrust Antivirus >> >>>>>> >>> gave the >> >>>>>> >>>>> first virus alarm. F-Secure Client Security is not >> >>>>>> >>> worried >> >>>>>> >>>>> at all. I do not know if it is a false alarm or >> >>>>>> >>> not. >> >>>>>> >>>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> -Jukka Rahkonen- >> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -----Alkuperäinen viesti----- >> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Lähettäjä: Malte Weller >> >>>>>> >>> [mailto:wel...@umwelt.uni-hannover.de >> >>>>>> <mailto:wel...@umwelt.uni-hannover.de>] >> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Lähetetty: 7. syyskuuta 2009 >> >>>>>> >>> 15:18 >> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Vastaanottaja: OpenJump develop >> >>>>>> >>> and use >> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Aihe: [JPP-Devel] Virus/Spyware >> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>> >>>>> 'Troj/Agent-KRQ' in OpenJump >> >>>>>> >>>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 1.3 zip file >> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi, >> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I just downloaded version 1.3 (zip >> >>>>>> >>> and >> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>> >>>>> source files) from >> >>>>>> >>>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> SourceForge and my Sophos >> >>>>>> >>> antivirus >> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>> >>>>> software informed me >> >>>>>> >>>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> about a trojan >> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> (Troj/Agent-KRQ) in the OJ.exe >> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>> >>>>> (openjump-1.3\bin\OJ.exe). >> >>>>>> >>>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Can someone else confirm this? >> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Greetings from Hanover. >> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Malte >> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>> >>>>> >> >>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>>>> ---------------- >> >>>>>> >>>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> Let Crystal Reports handle the >> >>>>>> >>> reporting - >> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>> >>>>> Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day >> >>>>>> >>>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> trial. 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