Hi Ede, There are several strata of development :
- The original open/save dialog from vivid with a clear separation between format and extension, as explained by Martin. - The addition of several datasource access plugins (wms, databases, images...) - The new Open Datasource framework which tried to uniformise datasource access I think that it has been a user choice to keep the old open file dialog somewhere (actually, category right-click context menu) And maybe a design choice (or limitation) to rework the open dialog, and not the save dialog. Would probably worth merging some parts at some point. I would not put high priority on this task, but if you have a clear idea about where to go to simplify without loosing capability. Michaël Le 17/10/2011 20:26, edgar.sol...@web.de a écrit : > why do we have several file dialogues anyway? > > shouldn't we strive to merge them into one only? > > ..ede > > > On 15.10.2011 21:15, Sunburned Surveyor wrote: >> The last suggestion by Martin Davis makes sense to me. >> >> Landon >> >> On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 8:39 PM, Martin Davis<mtncl...@telus.net> wrote: >>> So is the behaviour: >>> >>> - if Filter By Extension is unchecked, then the user can select any file >>> and any format >>> - if Filter By Extension is checked, then the user selects a file and >>> the format is determined from the extension >>> >>> ? >>> >>> Would an even simpler alternative be to determine the format from the >>> extension, where this is unabiguous, and if it is ambiguous or >>> undetermined then let the user choose the desired format? >>> >>> So examples are: >>> - if a .SHP file is chosen, the format is set to Shapefile automatically. >>> - if a .ZIP or .XML file is chosen, the user must choose the appropriate >>> format >>> >>> >>> >>> So there is only one dropdown for Format, and then the checkbox >>> >>> On 10/14/2011 12:59 AM, edgar.sol...@web.de wrote: >>>>> On 10/13/2011 2:24 AM, edgar.sol...@web.de wrote: >>>>>> On 13.10.2011 01:02, Martin Davis wrote: >>>>>>> One reason for having the double choice of both format and file name is >>>>>>> that there are formats (such as GML) which don't have a standard file >>>>>>> extension that can be used to drive the choice of format. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Also, in JUMP originally we supported a zipped shapefile concept. It >>>>>>> had the extension .zip, but was read by the Shapefile driver. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> One thing that could be do would be to use the file extension to drive >>>>>>> the initial format setting, but allow it to be overridden for files with >>>>>>> non-specific extensions. >>>>>>> >>>>>> How about a checkbox 'filter by extension', which can be disabled >>>>>> allowing to select any file with any selection in the format dropdown? >>>>>> >>>>> Ok, but I'm not sure how this solves the problem of determining the >>>>> format of a file with an unknown extension? >>>>> >>>> there is no determination. but, it allows users to assign a format of >>>> their choice to a file of their choice and try to open it. >>>> >>>> seen? ede >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a >>>> definitive record of customers, application performance, security >>>> threats, fraudulent activity and more. 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