On 10.07.2012 13:11, Giuseppe Aruta wrote: > Hi Ede, > just some thoughts and questions
ok :) > As I am a Linux user, as far as I remember that gap on the right is not > visible (with Ubuntu, Italian language, I am not sure for now - no Ubuntu > here to test). Do you have the same gap with Linux/German language? the size of the gap is depended on the forced size of the system ui titlebar which is different on every os. notice that the titlebars and borders are determined by the os, not the java runtime l&f selection. but actually you are right there were instances, especially on linux where that gap was very small to not existing. this was because the os obviously didn't set minimum width bigger than 4 of our button side by side. my goal on the other hand was to find a solution that works on all platforms identically and makes the toolbar window only as big as absolutely necessary to give users as much to see from the viewport as possible. > Is it possible to add "resize" capabilities to ToolBox java files? This could > be another solution to investigate (saving closing button) believe me i tried everything and used up my google foo. the only way to get rid of the gap was to remove the system generated titlebar. but to humor you: yes it is possible, but - you couldn't resize the window to thinner than the minwidth of the os titlebar, hence still the gap - making the window bigger, leaves the buttons on the left only the options button grows with. but i guess you didn't aim for a bigger toolbox anyway. ..ede > regards > Giuseppe > > *Da:* "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > *A:* OpenJump develop and use <[email protected]> > *Inviato:* Lunedì 9 Luglio 2012 14:48 > *Oggetto:* Re: [JPP-Devel] editing toolbox > > On 09.07.2012 13:52, Giuseppe Aruta wrote: >> Decoration - it looks like the North Arrow or Zoom Bar: something drawn on >> the workbench. A border all around the bar will make the difference. This is >> a point of view, Ede, nothing connected to the functionality of the new bar, >> which I like. BTW I think we can study something similar for Sextante, too. > > there is a one point wide black border around it to visually differentiate it > from other grey ui components which might lay behind it. > >> And, yes! It seems strange to use double click to close a window. But only >> one click will be probably more confusing. For my personal point of view I >> would like only to have toolbar/menu bar options to open/close editing >> toolbox (no double click). Or a close button on the title bar - but we >> eliminate this option, I think. > > could you point out the harm of the doubleclick to hide option? i see that > people might not intuitively use it, but in the worst case they simply don't > use it. > >> Shitstorm probably won't come, as you wrote. So we all "OJ >> survayors"should take decision about it. >> BTW as far as I remember (I might be wrong) SAIG Kosmo toolbar has no empty >> border on the right side. It could be an other option to investigate to >> solve this problem (a raw of 5 or 6 tools instead of 4, for instance - I did >> it with the experimental OJ clone Jufre: >> http://sourceforge.net/projects/opensit/files/Openjump/Openjump%20Jufre/) > > widening the buttons panel would actually solve the initial issue, yes. > >> Editing toolbox itself needs probably a restyling as it uses different >> methods to setup tools. As I experimented on OJ Jufre, using only original >> Jump method makes toolbar faster on opening (again, this is my personal >> point of view, Ede) > > you mean the addition of the buttons below, you can see it when it is created > for the first time? yes, agreed, but i don't consider this urgent or > interesting right now. just wanted to save space and remove the ugly > righthand gap. > > no worries, you are entitled to suggestion and oppinions and i will continue > to value them. > > ..ede > >> Regards >> Peppe >> >> >> *Da:* "[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>" >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> *A:* OpenJump develop and use <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> >> *Inviato:* Lunedì 9 Luglio 2012 12:35 >> *Oggetto:* Re: [JPP-Devel] editing toolbox >> >> On 09.07.2012 12:20, Giuseppe Aruta wrote: >>> Hi, >>> I tested today the new editing toolbar. On windows 7 >>> I agree with Michael, there must be a border to. It makes the bar more >>> visible as a set of tool. The actual frame can be easly misundertood as a >>> decoration (strange) into the workbench. >> >> how do you mean 'decoration' .. will do a separating line unter the new >> titlebar, but you seem to mean something different. >> >>> Drag/double clicking can be a little confusing. Is it possible to set only >>> right double clicking to close the bar? >> >> would be but then again, did you ever doubleclick with the right >> mousebutton? i certainly can't remember any occasion to have ever needed to >> do that. if we must i'd rather use one right mouse click instead. >> but actually i really like us all to wait for a shitstorm (which probably >> wont come) about this pretty minor detail, and than we can still modify that. >> >> SNIP >>> For the usability, I like Ede modification. >> >> thanks.. ede >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Live Security Virtual Conference >> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. 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