I agree with Jukka, if it is possible to leave original JUMP keyboard
shortcuts in OpenJUMP. It makes easier to move from OJ to Skyjump or Kosmo.
Peppe
2012/12/29 Rahkonen Jukka <jukka.rahko...@mmmtike.fi>
> Hi,
>
> These basic shortcuts have always existed and behaved in a similar way
> (Alt, Shift-Alt, Ctrl, and Ctrl-Alt). If we had real users doing every day
> work with OJ they might get frustrated because the change does not make
> usage dramatically better, just different. OJ itself may have only
> developers but Kosmo and SkyJUMP have also normal users and probably they
> will continue to use the old shortcuts. Perhaps it would be better to keep
> these old ones as they are also in OJ but I do not have a strong opinion.
>
> -Jukka-
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> Lähettäjä: edgar.sol...@web.de [edgar.sol...@web.de]
> Lähetetty: 28. joulukuuta 2012 23:58
> Vastaanottaja: OpenJump develop and use
> Aihe: Re: [JPP-Devel] Fwd: add kosmo shortcuts?
>
> not necessarily.. what you describe was mentioned in a source code comment
> of OJ, that clicks can become micro drags depending on the hardware...
>
> we still have the option to go back and use Shift for the PanTool. that
> way we would get the zoom to fence back but loose the only free modifier
> key.. i could live with that. wanna try?
>
> ..ede
>
> On 28.12.2012 22:47, Rahkonen Jukka wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am sometimes digitizing with a computer which has keyboard and touch
> screen and with that computer I like most to use stylus and touchcreen
> instead of mouse and it makes some things different. One difference is that
> click with stylus is not stable (or my hand is not) and therefore with the
> new shortcuts the one-click zoom-in does not necessarily work but it
> becomes a short panning. Same happens if you try to digitize with a normal
> mouse while sitting in a moving car.
> >
> > We can well forget these special problems now. We will meet them and
> many more if there will be JUMP for tablets one day.
> >
> > -Jukka Rahkonen-
> >
> >
> > ________________________________________
> > Lähettäjä: edgar.sol...@web.de [edgar.sol...@web.de]
> > Lähetetty: 28. joulukuuta 2012 19:50
> > Vastaanottaja: OpenJump develop and use
> > Aihe: Re: [JPP-Devel] Fwd: add kosmo shortcuts?
> >
> > On 28.12.2012 18:39, Rahkonen Jukka wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> The new zoom shortcuts do not update the scale value in the box below
> the map.
> >
> > probably fixable
> >
> >> I also found that Alt-drag, while it is nice for panning, makes it
> sometimes hard to zoom in if one is using a stylus for digitising or is in
> a move because mouse does not stay exactly at the same place during the
> click.
> >
> > sorry, can you elaborate?
> >
> >> Alt-Plus and Alt-Minus key for zooming are not very usable because user
> must use both hands for the operation. I would rather keep the mouse in one
> hand all the time.
> >
> > you can.. simply don't use the /additional/ keyboard shortcuts, but use
> mouse buttons as you are used to
> >
> >> I tried also that Alt-gr button does not work here.
> >
> > yes that has no function up to now
> >
> >> My opinion at the moment is that old Alt and Shift-Alt shortcuts were a
> bit better for me,
> >
> > except of the scale meter bug above you have exactly the old Alt key
> behaviour. difference is panning replaced "zoom to fence".
> >
> > or what are you missing? ..ede
> >
> >
> >
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