Nice map! :) so you and Andrei, both impress me with what OJ can actually do.
salduos stefan Am 01.04.14 13:18, schrieb Giuseppe Aruta: > Hi Stefan, > there are still people who have to plot map, like me. > Recently I had to print again old GIS projects (geological maps) and I > gave a chance to OpenJUMP/Cadplann printer with very nice results. > I used embedded OJ geological symbols for point symbols > For linear symbols I developed line symbol classes to use as > decorations. And for areal symbols I simple used my own patterns with > Geof's JumpFillPattern plugin (embedded into OJ PLus). > I put a (sample map here: > http://sourceforge.net/projects/opensit/files/Programmi%20e%20corsi/sample_maps/Auletta_geo.png/download. > > It is a low quality derived image from a high PDF export. > Best regards > Peppe > > > > 2014-04-01 18:11 GMT+02:00 Stefan Steiniger <sst...@geo.uzh.ch > <mailto:sst...@geo.uzh.ch>>: > > Thanks for the analysis Jukka & Larry. So now my 2 cents: > I haven't used SkyPrint but a couple of times Geoffs plugin. > After reading Jukkas and Larry's comment I think we should put SkyPrint > in Core, but maybe rename it "Screen Print" or "PDF Print". This way it > may also be clear what is does focus on, in comparison to Cadplans print > plugin that does a lot more and is for "plotting maps" (do people still > do that? ;). > > thanks to the programmers! > > cheers, > stefan > > Am 01.04.14 09 <tel:01.04.14%2009>:46, schrieb Larry Becker: > > Jukka has it right. I think of it as two parts: a printer (or PDF) > > driver, and a screen print utility. It should be possible for > Cadplan > > to use the SkyPrint driver, just as it uses the "ISA print > driver" now, > > if Geoff is willing. I would recommend that the SkyPrint driver > be put > > in core so that developers can count on it being there. > > > > The only (minor) difficulty I see is the printing of the map > "furniture" > > through iText. As I recall, I had to put in special code to support > > North arrows and scale bars in SkyJUMP. > > > > I want to thank Mattias for his good work in porting the capability, > > since I was too lazy. 8-) > > > > It may be useful to review this thread > > > > <http://jump-pilot-devel-openjump-develop-and-use.1063199.n5.nabble.com/JPP-Devel-RenderingManager-modes-in-skyjump-td5708408.html#a5708423> > > from March of last year on the same topic. > > > > regards, > > Larry Becker > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 6:45 AM, Rahkonen Jukka (Tike) > > <jukka.rahko...@mmmtike.fi <mailto:jukka.rahko...@mmmtike.fi> > <mailto:jukka.rahko...@mmmtike.fi > <mailto:jukka.rahko...@mmmtike.fi>>> wrote: > > > > Hi,____ > > > > __ __ > > > > In my opinion SkyPrint is not really a printer plugin. It is > rather > > an enhanced PrintScreen utility that sends the map from your > screen > > to printer. It has some very good features which makes the print > > quality better than really using print screen or Save view as… > > option of OpenJUMP. These include some style adjustments and a > > possibility to double the raster image resolution. The unique > > feature in SkyPrint is that it can write out layered PDF > where each > > map layer from OpenJUMP is written as a separate PDF layer. The > > visibility of layers can be controlled with the layer tool of > > Acrobat Reader. I am not sure if any other viewer support this > > feature.____ > > > > __ __ > > > > Why I would call it PrintScreen utility is that it is missing all > > features that printed maps tend to have: Title, legend, > scale, North > > Arrow etc. ____ > > > > __ __ > > > > The SkyPrint UI shows the advanced features it has but here > is the > > list of enhancement option it has for those who have not > tried it:____ > > > > - Remove transparency____ > > > > - Print page border____ > > > > - Remove fills from basic style____ > > > > - Remove fills for color themes____ > > > > - Adjust line width by percent____ > > > > - Double raster image resolution____ > > > > __ __ > > > > SkyPrint creates very good quality prints and layered PDF is very > > nice format for many purposes but SkyPrint as the only printing > > utility is rather limited. Better long termo option would be to > > enhance the Cadplan printer with PDF layers and quality > enhancement > > options.____ > > > > __ __ > > > > -Jukka Rahkonen-____ > > > > __ __ > > > > __ __ > > > > Michael Michaud wrote:____ > > > > __ __ > > > > Hi Geoff, Matthias > > > > Thanks a lot for the offer Geoff. > > > > As I'm not a daily user of printing features, my main concern > > for now is to rationalize developpements and to develop in a > > useful way. > > To help heading in that direction, may advice would be > > - to make a detailed comparison of skyprinter and cadplan > > printer features > > - to make a small survey about how people use them and how > > they are satisfied with them > > - to study how they can converge or how they can complete > > each other in future developments > > > > But the first step is probably to make skyprinter available, > > either in core or in plus version. > > > > Matthias, what do you think ? Is there already a comparison > > between both plugins ? > > > > Best regards, > > > > Michaël > > ____ > > > > Dear All > > > > I would be quite happy to look at adding any required > additional > > functionality to my printer plugin if this would add to the > > general OpenJump capability. Please let me know what > might be > > useful. > > > > thanks > > > > Geoff > > > > ____ > > > > On 18/03/2014 18:02, Rahkonen Jukka (Tike) wrote:____ > > > > Hi,____ > > > > ____ > > > > Let SkyPrint be in the Plus then. However, then Core will > > still remain without printing capabilities which I > think it > > would deserve. ____ > > > > But there is already the “Save view as..” option in > Core. If > > I think my own printing needs I need very often not > only the > > map on a paper but also title, legend in a good place and > > fixed, selectable scale. Having these features brings the > > core printer pretty close to Cadplan printer plugin so > > perhaps OJ Core will live without printing options.____ > > > > For me title and legend and more frequently needed > options > > than layered PDF which is the biggest gig in Skyprint. > > Perhaps it could be possible to add layering into Cadplan > > printer which also seems to be able to write PDF > files with > > iText.____ > > > > ____ > > > > I have a small wish for the SkyPrint plugin: it could > have a > > dropdown menu for selecting the most common paper > sizes for > > PDF dimensions.____ > > > > ____ > > > > -Jukka Rahkonen-____ > > > > ____ > > > > *Lähettäjä:* Giuseppe Aruta > [mailto:giuseppe_ar...@yahoo.it <mailto:giuseppe_ar...@yahoo.it>] > > *Lähetetty:* 18. maaliskuuta 2014 11:05 > > *Vastaanottaja:* OpenJump develop and use > > *Aihe:* Re: [JPP-Devel] Integration of the SkyPrintPlugin > > into CORE____ > > > > ____ > > > > I am in favour of Ede's proposal.____ > > > > Peppe____ > > > > ____ > > > > 2014-03-17 20:18 GMT+01:00 <edgar.sol...@web.de > <mailto:edgar.sol...@web.de> > > <mailto:edgar.sol...@web.de > <mailto:edgar.sol...@web.de>>>:____ > > > > On 17.03.2014 18:39, Matthias Scholz wrote: > > > > > > > > >> Hi, > > >> > > >> If it works on Win/Linux/Mac and 32-bit/64-bit then > > absolutely into core. The jar is only about 40 kb and > makes > > it possible to > > > Not quite correct. You need the itext jar in the lib > > folder too ;-)____ > > > > ok, that's 1MB extra.. that smells like PLUS to me > then.____ > > > > > > >>> @All.. is there agreement that this is wanted in > CORE, > > or would we rather have it in PLUS, to keep CORE > lean?____ > > > > >> We can have a File -> Print submenu with SkyPrint in > > CORE and SkyPrint + > > >> Geoff's plugin in the PLUS. > > > > > > I am undecided, but Printing should be a core feature. > > However, what > > > Matthias proposed maybe best as Geoffs Printing is > a bit > > heavier and > > > people should know by now that the goodies come > with PLUS > > (hopefully).____ > > > > i'd suggest > > > > File->Print->Printer (Cadplan) > > Printer (SkyPrint) > > > > as to differentiate the two. trying to describe the > > difference would be to difficult in a short menu > item's text. > > this can easily be done with the new install mechanism. > > default-plugins.xml can override the install setting > of any > > extension. the string would go into OJ language files > then.____ > > > > > > >> wrt. to the integration. > > >> > > >> @All.. is there agreement that this is wanted in > CORE, > > or would we rather have it in PLUS, to keep CORE > lean?____ > > > > > We can have a File -> Print submenu with SkyPrint > in CORE > > and SkyPrint + > > > Geoff's plugin in the PLUS. > > >>____ > > > > >> Matthias: you might wanna read the old thread on > what we > > "negotiated"____ > > > > >> > > > > http://sourceforge.net/p/jump-pilot/mailman/jump-pilot-devel/thread/5288BF32.3060408%40web.de/#msg31648034 > > > I read it yesterday again. To get the SkyPrinter > run from > > lib/ext we > > > need the itext jar in the lib path. Ede, should i > move the > > > itext-2.1.7.jar from lib/plus into lib/ and copy > > > SkyPrinterPlugIn-1.0.0.jar to the SVN into lib/ext > or do > > you do that > > > during release build????____ > > > > for PLUS this is handled easily. everything in > > trunk/lib/plus/ is simply copied into lib/ext/ during the > > PLUS release build. so, after Jukka or others > "approved" the > > extension you might simply > > > > - add documentation to etc/readme.txt (section > > Licensing/PLUS), read other entries there to get an > idea of > > the needed information > > - commit the needed jar to lib/plus/ & it will be > included > > in the next PLUS build > > > > as you volunteered (kind of) now for the extension's > > maintenance ;) please also generate a proper extension > > release for sf.net <http://sf.net> <http://sf.net> > files, instead of only a jar. > > that would be a zip file, containing > > > > ReadMe.txt - with chapters > > Installation - which file to copy where > > Licenses - name, files, component > > lib files - needed support jars, extension jar > > license files (txt,pdf...) for the components above, > > download them from the net > > > > and upload it for users wanting to use the extension > with a > > barebone CORE OJ only. > > > > regards.. ede____ > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book > > "Graph Databases" is the definitive new guide to graph > > databases and their > > applications. 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