Hi
> Nice map! :)
> so you and Andrei, both impress me with what OJ can actually do.
Yes, very impressive !
Let us know. How much was done with OpenJUMP ?

Michaël
>
> salduos
> stefan
>
> Am 01.04.14 13:18, schrieb Giuseppe Aruta:
>> Hi Stefan,
>> there are still people who have to plot map, like me.
>> Recently I had to print again old  GIS projects (geological maps) and I
>> gave a chance to OpenJUMP/Cadplann printer with very nice results.
>> I used embedded OJ geological symbols for point symbols
>> For linear symbols I developed line symbol classes to use as
>> decorations. And for areal symbols I simple used my own patterns with
>> Geof's JumpFillPattern plugin (embedded into OJ PLus).
>>    I put a (sample map here:
>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/opensit/files/Programmi%20e%20corsi/sample_maps/Auletta_geo.png/download.
>>
>> It is a low quality derived image from a high PDF export.
>> Best regards
>> Peppe
>>
>>
>>
>> 2014-04-01 18:11 GMT+02:00 Stefan Steiniger <sst...@geo.uzh.ch
>> <mailto:sst...@geo.uzh.ch>>:
>>
>>      Thanks for the analysis Jukka & Larry. So now my 2 cents:
>>      I haven't used SkyPrint but a couple of times Geoffs plugin.
>>      After reading Jukkas and Larry's comment I think we should put SkyPrint
>>      in Core, but maybe rename it "Screen Print" or "PDF Print". This way it
>>      may also be clear what is does focus on, in comparison to Cadplans print
>>      plugin that does a lot more and is for "plotting maps" (do people still
>>      do that? ;).
>>
>>      thanks to the programmers!
>>
>>      cheers,
>>      stefan
>>
>>      Am 01.04.14 09 <tel:01.04.14%2009>:46, schrieb Larry Becker:
>>       > Jukka has it right.  I think of it as two parts: a printer (or PDF)
>>       > driver, and a screen print utility.  It should be possible for
>>      Cadplan
>>       > to use the SkyPrint driver, just as it uses the "ISA print
>>      driver" now,
>>       > if Geoff is willing.  I would recommend that the SkyPrint driver
>>      be put
>>       > in core so that developers can count on it being there.
>>       >
>>       > The only (minor) difficulty I see is the printing of the map
>>      "furniture"
>>       > through iText.  As I recall, I had to put in special code to support
>>       > North arrows and scale bars in SkyJUMP.
>>       >
>>       > I want to thank Mattias for his good work in porting the capability,
>>       > since I was too lazy.  8-)
>>       >
>>       > It may be useful to review this thread
>>       >
>>      
>> <http://jump-pilot-devel-openjump-develop-and-use.1063199.n5.nabble.com/JPP-Devel-RenderingManager-modes-in-skyjump-td5708408.html#a5708423>
>>       > from March of last year on the same topic.
>>       >
>>       > regards,
>>       > Larry Becker
>>       >
>>       >
>>       > On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 6:45 AM, Rahkonen Jukka (Tike)
>>       > <jukka.rahko...@mmmtike.fi <mailto:jukka.rahko...@mmmtike.fi>
>>      <mailto:jukka.rahko...@mmmtike.fi
>>      <mailto:jukka.rahko...@mmmtike.fi>>> wrote:
>>       >
>>       >     Hi,____
>>       >
>>       >     __ __
>>       >
>>       >     In my opinion SkyPrint is not really a printer plugin.  It is
>>      rather
>>       >     an enhanced PrintScreen utility that sends the map from your
>>      screen
>>       >     to printer. It has some very  good features which makes the print
>>       >     quality better than really using print screen or Save view as…
>>       >     option of OpenJUMP. These include some style adjustments and a
>>       >     possibility to double the raster image resolution.  The unique
>>       >     feature in SkyPrint is that it can write out layered PDF
>>      where each
>>       >     map layer from OpenJUMP is written as a separate PDF layer. The
>>       >     visibility of layers can be controlled with the layer tool of
>>       >     Acrobat Reader. I am not sure if any other viewer support this
>>       >     feature.____
>>       >
>>       >     __ __
>>       >
>>       >     Why I would call it PrintScreen utility is that it is missing all
>>       >     features that printed maps tend to have: Title, legend,
>>      scale, North
>>       >     Arrow etc. ____
>>       >
>>       >     __ __
>>       >
>>       >     The SkyPrint UI shows the advanced features it has but here
>>      is the
>>       >     list of enhancement option it has for those who have not
>>      tried it:____
>>       >
>>       >     - Remove transparency____
>>       >
>>       >     - Print page border____
>>       >
>>       >     - Remove fills from basic style____
>>       >
>>       >     - Remove fills for color themes____
>>       >
>>       >     - Adjust line width by percent____
>>       >
>>       >     - Double raster image resolution____
>>       >
>>       >     __ __
>>       >
>>       >     SkyPrint creates very good quality prints and layered PDF is very
>>       >     nice format for many purposes but SkyPrint as the only printing
>>       >     utility is rather limited. Better long termo option would be to
>>       >     enhance the Cadplan printer with PDF layers and quality
>>      enhancement
>>       >     options.____
>>       >
>>       >     __ __
>>       >
>>       >     -Jukka Rahkonen-____
>>       >
>>       >     __ __
>>       >
>>       >     __ __
>>       >
>>       >     Michael Michaud wrote:____
>>       >
>>       >     __ __
>>       >
>>       >     Hi Geoff, Matthias
>>       >
>>       >     Thanks a lot for the offer Geoff.
>>       >
>>       >     As I'm not a daily user of printing features, my main concern
>>       >     for now is to rationalize developpements and to develop in a
>>       >     useful way.
>>       >     To help heading in that direction, may advice would be
>>       >     - to make a detailed comparison of skyprinter and cadplan
>>       >     printer features
>>       >     - to make a small survey about how people use them and how
>>       >     they are satisfied with them
>>       >     - to study how they can converge or how they can complete
>>       >     each other in future developments
>>       >
>>       >     But the first step is probably to make skyprinter available,
>>       >     either in core or in plus version.
>>       >
>>       >     Matthias, what do you think ? Is there already a comparison
>>       >     between both plugins ?
>>       >
>>       >     Best regards,
>>       >
>>       >     Michaël
>>       >     ____
>>       >
>>       >         Dear All
>>       >
>>       >         I would be quite happy to look at adding any required
>>      additional
>>       >         functionality to my printer plugin if this would add to the
>>       >         general OpenJump capability.  Please let me know what
>>      might be
>>       >         useful.
>>       >
>>       >         thanks
>>       >
>>       >         Geoff
>>       >
>>       >         ____
>>       >
>>       >         On 18/03/2014 18:02, Rahkonen Jukka (Tike) wrote:____
>>       >
>>       >             Hi,____
>>       >
>>       >             ____
>>       >
>>       >             Let SkyPrint be in the Plus then. However, then Core will
>>       >             still remain without printing capabilities which I
>>      think it
>>       >             would deserve. ____
>>       >
>>       >             But there is already the “Save view as..” option in
>>      Core. If
>>       >             I think my own printing needs I need very often not
>>      only the
>>       >             map on a paper but also title, legend in a good place and
>>       >             fixed, selectable scale. Having these features brings the
>>       >             core printer pretty close to Cadplan printer plugin so
>>       >             perhaps OJ Core will live without printing options.____
>>       >
>>       >             For me title and legend and more frequently needed
>>      options
>>       >             than layered PDF which is the biggest gig in Skyprint.
>>       >             Perhaps it could be possible to add layering into Cadplan
>>       >             printer which also seems to be able to write PDF
>>      files with
>>       >             iText.____
>>       >
>>       >             ____
>>       >
>>       >             I have a small wish for the SkyPrint plugin: it could
>>      have a
>>       >             dropdown menu for selecting the most common paper
>>      sizes for
>>       >             PDF dimensions.____
>>       >
>>       >             ____
>>       >
>>       >             -Jukka Rahkonen-____
>>       >
>>       >             ____
>>       >
>>       >             *Lähettäjä:* Giuseppe Aruta
>>      [mailto:giuseppe_ar...@yahoo.it <mailto:giuseppe_ar...@yahoo.it>]
>>       >             *Lähetetty:* 18. maaliskuuta 2014 11:05
>>       >             *Vastaanottaja:* OpenJump develop and use
>>       >             *Aihe:* Re: [JPP-Devel] Integration of the SkyPrintPlugin
>>       >             into CORE____
>>       >
>>       >             ____
>>       >
>>       >             I am in favour of Ede's proposal.____
>>       >
>>       >             Peppe____
>>       >
>>       >             ____
>>       >
>>       >             2014-03-17 20:18 GMT+01:00 <edgar.sol...@web.de
>>      <mailto:edgar.sol...@web.de>
>>       >             <mailto:edgar.sol...@web.de
>>      <mailto:edgar.sol...@web.de>>>:____
>>       >
>>       >             On 17.03.2014 18:39, Matthias Scholz wrote:
>>       >              >
>>       >              >
>>       >              >> Hi,
>>       >              >>
>>       >              >> If it works on Win/Linux/Mac and 32-bit/64-bit then
>>       >             absolutely into core. The jar is only about 40 kb and
>>      makes
>>       >             it possible to
>>       >              > Not quite correct. You need the itext jar in the lib
>>       >             folder too ;-)____
>>       >
>>       >             ok, that's 1MB extra.. that smells like PLUS to me
>>      then.____
>>       >
>>       >
>>       >              >>> @All.. is there agreement that this is wanted in
>>      CORE,
>>       >             or would we rather have it in PLUS, to keep CORE
>>      lean?____
>>       >
>>       >              >> We can have a File -> Print submenu with SkyPrint in
>>       >             CORE and SkyPrint +
>>       >              >> Geoff's plugin in the PLUS.
>>       >              >
>>       >              > I am undecided, but Printing should be a core feature.
>>       >             However, what
>>       >              > Matthias proposed maybe best as Geoffs Printing is
>>      a bit
>>       >             heavier and
>>       >              > people should know by now that the goodies come
>>      with PLUS
>>       >             (hopefully).____
>>       >
>>       >             i'd suggest
>>       >
>>       >             File->Print->Printer (Cadplan)
>>       >                           Printer (SkyPrint)
>>       >
>>       >             as to differentiate the two. trying to describe the
>>       >             difference would be to difficult in a short menu
>>      item's text.
>>       >             this can easily be done with the new install mechanism.
>>       >             default-plugins.xml can override the install setting
>>      of any
>>       >             extension. the string would go into OJ language files
>>      then.____
>>       >
>>       >
>>       >              >> wrt. to the integration.
>>       >              >>
>>       >              >> @All.. is there agreement that this is wanted in
>>      CORE,
>>       >             or would we rather have it in PLUS, to keep CORE
>>      lean?____
>>       >
>>       >              > We can have a File -> Print submenu with SkyPrint
>>      in CORE
>>       >             and SkyPrint +
>>       >              > Geoff's plugin in the PLUS.
>>       >              >>____
>>       >
>>       >              >> Matthias: you might wanna read the old thread on
>>      what we
>>       >             "negotiated"____
>>       >
>>       >              >>
>>       >
>>      
>> http://sourceforge.net/p/jump-pilot/mailman/jump-pilot-devel/thread/5288BF32.3060408%40web.de/#msg31648034
>>       >              > I read it yesterday again. To get the SkyPrinter
>>      run from
>>       >             lib/ext we
>>       >              > need the itext jar in the lib path. Ede, should i
>>      move the
>>       >              > itext-2.1.7.jar from lib/plus into lib/ and copy
>>       >              > SkyPrinterPlugIn-1.0.0.jar to the SVN into lib/ext
>>      or do
>>       >             you do that
>>       >              > during release build????____
>>       >
>>       >             for PLUS this is handled easily. everything in
>>       >             trunk/lib/plus/ is simply copied into lib/ext/ during the
>>       >             PLUS release build. so, after Jukka or others
>>      "approved" the
>>       >             extension you might simply
>>       >
>>       >             - add documentation to etc/readme.txt (section
>>       >             Licensing/PLUS), read other entries there to get an
>>      idea of
>>       >             the needed information
>>       >             - commit the needed jar to lib/plus/ & it will be
>>      included
>>       >             in the next PLUS build
>>       >
>>       >             as you volunteered (kind of) now for the extension's
>>       >             maintenance ;) please also generate a proper extension
>>       >             release for sf.net <http://sf.net> <http://sf.net>
>>      files, instead of only a jar.
>>       >             that would be a zip file, containing
>>       >
>>       >             ReadMe.txt - with chapters
>>       >               Installation - which file to copy where
>>       >               Licenses - name, files, component
>>       >             lib files - needed support jars, extension jar
>>       >             license files (txt,pdf...) for the components above,
>>       >             download them from the net
>>       >
>>       >             and upload it for users wanting to use the extension
>>      with a
>>       >             barebone CORE OJ only.
>>       >
>>       >             regards.. ede____
>>       >
>>       >
>>       >
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