On 10/13/2011 05:51 PM, David Ball wrote: > On 13 October 2011 14:41, Chris Morrow <morr...@ops-netman.net> wrote: >>> >>> I can't help but wonder if perhaps Juniper just expects us to >>> buy....I dunno....routers....to do routing. I'm not trying to justify >> >> this is a flavor of the 'its only a TOR switch' discussion, but... > > Should it not be ?
eh, just pointing out where the conversation was headed (and has been before) >> <http://www.juniper.net/us/en/local/pdf/datasheets/1000261-en.pdf> >> talks about mpls capabilities, > > ...roadmapped, though I haven't a clue how old that PDF is..perhaps > it supports MPLS now. NSR was also listed as roadmapped, which I > would consider a requirement of a dual-RE device which will be > performing a significant amount of routing. sure... point being they put it on brochures. >> as well as bgp, ipv6, isis.... > > ...all 3 of which require Advanced Feature Licenses (just to > 'enable' a feature which is absolutely required). Same PDF indicates supposedly at least v6 is 'not encumbered by a license'... don't know about isis/bgp though. They probably are since enterprises think bgp is 'hard' and thus are ok with paying extra for something they perceive they don't need. > "* Shared route table—actual capacity depends on prefix distribution" > when referring to IPv4 unicast routes. I'm not doubting that it was a > bad implementation as Paul described, but they do make mention of it. sure, in a funny and useless-for-capacity-planning manner. >> so, it >> kind of fits the bill for a larger network device with routing >> capabilities, eh? > > Clearly YMMV....let's ask the OP. Or, ask your Juniper RE at the > Goog if they would recommend it for such a purpose. I haven't tried > to push full tables to enough switches to know how many of them are > good at it, so please forgive both my ignorance and smugness (yeah, > that's a word). smugness is fine, my point here is it's marketed at more than it (far more) can accomplish, that's going to engender some anger from folks. _______________________________________________ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp