Hello Scott. I completed next test: a) OS Win2kPro, b) I installed second network card into the my PC, c) I connected my PC to LAN via second card, d) I used next "Local Area Connection" properties for "Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)": - obtain an IP address automatically, - obtain DNS server address automatically, e) I cleared Kaboodle registry setting on my PC, f) I started Kaboodle on my PC. Here is what I see:
1 - Kaboodle checks that LAN isn't empty. Please see into the log file NidLog.txt. I found next string in that file - CheckLan::CheckIsLan() - find other device <DEVLIN>, the default gateway is <192.168.1.2> It is my special debug log string, which belong to the a WinApi function WNetEnumResource. Please repeat that test and let me know if your NidLog.txt log file doesn't contains that string. (I attached my NidLog.txt log file.) 2 - Kaboodle doesn't checks any device in my LAN. I prompted next command line - ipconfig /all. (I attached my ipconfig_all.txt file.) There is following interesting string: - Subnet Mask.........: 255.255.0.0 It seems like Windows automatically assign that mask. I didn't familiar with current Kaboodle's LAN detection procedure in details. But as I know Kaboodle expects that LAN has next subnet mask 255.255.255.0. It seems to me that above *INVALID SUBNET MASK* is the reason of bug for my test. - Igor ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott C. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Igor Kotelevsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Kaboodle-devel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Aryeh Goretsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2002 6:35 AM Subject: Re: [Kaboodle-devel] Re: Bug Report, 22 July > Igor: > Hello again. Okay, it has nothing to do with the > installation of an AOL client or not. But try this: install > two network cards into the same PC. Set them both up to get > their IP address via DHCP. Connect one of them to your LAN, > leave the other floating, see if Kaboodle works from a clean > install. If it does, switch the cables (connect the 2nd, > leave the first floating), then try it. > > I suspect that one of these arrangments will break > Kaboodle's ability to detect the network. My customer today > had a USB LAN adapter disconnected and that must be what > was confusing things (I saw the 169.x.y.z IP address, from > a failed DHCP request, in the 'route print' list). > > Aryeh: > Have you a PC to test this on? > > -Scott > > PS: I updated the background tiles today. I think they look > better. > > > On Sat, 24 Aug 2002, Scott C. Best wrote: > > > Igor: > > > > Hello! Just found out today that this existing solution > > doesn't completely work. > > > > I was working on a customer's ethernet network, and I > > installed Kaboodle on a Win2kPro PC. This PC had an AOL client > > installed on it, which they use to connect to AOL via the LAN > > connection. So I start Kaboodle, and it skips the LAN-detection > > completely. I am going to install an AOL client on my WinNT > > PC and see if I can see the same effect. > > > > We need to fix this. Kaboodle needs to evaluate all of > > the TCP/IP interfaces, and skip all of the ones where the IP > > address of the interface and the default gateway are the same. > > > > -Scott > > > > > > On Fri, 2 Aug 2002, Igor Kotelevsky wrote: > > > > > Hello Scott. > > > You wrote: > > > > ...could you implement a check so that Kaboodle skipped the > > > LAN-detection... > > > > if it detected that the IP address of the interface matches the IP address > > > of the default gateway. > > > I'll think how it can be implemented. > > > > > > Now I have following proposition. > > > Kaboodle can use a WinApi function WNetEnumResource (please see MSDN). > > > If that function finds any network resource, then Kaboodle skips the > > > LAN-detection. > > > That proposition has implemented. > > > Please CVS update and check it. > > > If you'll want remove it, please comment out a macros > > > #define _USE_CHECK_LAN > > > from the file stdafx.h. > > > - Igor > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Scott C. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: "Igor Kotelevsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Cc: "mailbox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Kaboodle-devel" > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 1:44 AM > > > Subject: Re: [Kaboodle-devel] Re: Bug Report, 22 July > > > > > > > > > > Igor: > > > > Heya. As per the data I found today, could you implement > > > > a check so that Kaboodle skipped the LAN-detection (and hence the > > > > OS classification) process if it detected that the IP address of > > > > the interface matches the IP address of the default gateway. > > > > This might be the best way, for now, of Kaboodle surviving an > > > > AOL-dialup setting. > > > > > > > > Once you get that check done, I think we can release > > > > a 0.90 version publically. > > > > > > > > I'm also interested in what you think Kaboodle should > > > > do if it detects it has more than one active LAN interface. > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > -Scott > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Igor Kotelevsky wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hello Scott. > > > > > You wrote: > > > > > > ... It lessens > > > > > > Kaboodle's effectiveness as a network scanner if something joined > > > > > > the LAN and could somehow dodge Kaboodle's detection by causing > > > > > > an exception during OS detection and then hiding as a EF_NID_NONE. > > > > > I restored old code of the function AutoDetectDeviceType() > > > > > without *try-catch* block. > > > > > If any exception will occur at that function, > > > > > then there isn't a way for both > > > > > defending against exception and > > > > > don't hiding a device as an EF_NID_NONE. > > > > > - Igor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Scott C. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > To: "Igor Kotelevsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > Cc: "mailbox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Kaboodle-devel" > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 9:27 PM > > > > > Subject: Re: [Kaboodle-devel] Re: Bug Report, 22 July > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Igor: > > > > > > Will re-run shortly. A quick comment or two: > > > > > > > > > > > > > The really reason of that crash is unknown for me yet, > > > > > > > but I think that we have to defend Kaboodle against that. > > > > > > > Therefore I have inserted a *try-catch* block into the function > > > > > > > DWORD CSearchNetworkManager::AutoDetectDeviceType(...). > > > > > > > If any exception will occur, and *try-catch* block can intercept it, > > > > > > > then that function will return EF_NID_NONE > > > > > > > and Kaboodle doesn't will add that device into itself. > > > > > > > (Old source code of AutoDetectDeviceType(...) is commented.) > > > > > > > > > > > > Hmmm. I like defending against exceptions, but I like > > > > > > being able to detect all network devices as well. It lessens > > > > > > Kaboodle's effectiveness as a network scanner if something joined > > > > > > the LAN and could somehow dodge Kaboodle's detection by causing > > > > > > an exception during OS detection and then hiding as a EF_NID_NONE. > > > > > > > > > > > > There's *got* to be a way to detect what interfaces a PC > > > > > > is using, and to prevent Kaboodle from running auto-detection on > > > > > > the WAN-side interface. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also I want to notice following. > > > > > > > The function AutoDetectDeviceType(...) checks type of device > > > > > > > in following sequence: PC, Printer, Macintosh, Appliance. > > > > > > > If all these checks failed, then the function returns the type > > > > > EF_NID_PC. > > > > > > > May be in this point the function have to return EF_NID_NONE? > > > > > > > > > > > > No, it needs to default to EF_NID_PC. The PC detection is > > > > > > really just "Windows detection". If I'm running a *nix machine (Linux, > > > > > > Solaris, BSD, etc), I want the PC icon to come up. > > > > > > > > > > > > -Scott > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Igor: > > > > > > > > Updated, re-run, log files attached. Again, it looks > > > > > > > > like its crashing after successfully discovering something on > > > > > > > > the same subnet. Weird. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Scott > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 30 Jul 2002, Igor Kotelevsky wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Scott. > > > > > > > > > The log file WithAOL\NidLog.txt (connection via AOL and crash) > > > > > > > > > shows following. > > > > > > > > > The latest 3 strings are next: > > > > > > > > > - StartOSDetection: BEGIN > > > > > > > > > - AutoDetectDeviceType: BEGIN > > > > > > > > > - AutoDetectDeviceType: 172.194.188.224 > > > > > > > > > It seems to me that crash has occurred > > > > > > > > > - inwardly to the function > > > > > > > > > DWORD CSearchNetworkManager::AutoDetectDeviceType(...), or > > > > > > > > > - inwardly to some function, which called from > > > > > AutoDetectDeviceType(). > > > > > > > > > (The log process is made so that if function ends then we see > > > > > something > > > > > > > > > like > > > > > > > > > - AutoDetectDeviceType: BEGIN > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > - AutoDetectDeviceType: END) > > > > > > > > > I have added enhanced information into the file NidLog.txt. > > > > > > > > > Please update latest CVS source and run Kaboodle in debug build. > > > > > > > > > Please send to me NidLog.txt. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You wrote: > > > > > > > > > > ...Perhaps the OS detection process is not being bypassed > > > > > correctly? > > > > > > > > > Yes. From above log file I see, that OS detection process starts > > > in > > > > > case > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > connection via AOL. > > > > > > > > > I didn't found Kaboodle's source code, which detect a modem. > > > > > > > > > Now I don't know as to detect a modem. > > > > > > > > > I'll try to search that. > > > > > > > > > - Igor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > > From: "Scott C. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > To: "Igor Kotelevsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > Cc: "mailbox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Kaboodle-devel" > > > > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 8:44 AM > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Bug Report, 22 July > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Igor: > > > > > > > > > > Hello! I ran the latest CVS code in debug mode on my > > > > > > > > > > Win98 laptop. It crashed whenever I ran it with AOL connected. > > > > > > > > > > The attached zipfile has three log file sets in there. > > > > > > > > > > One with no-AOL and no-LAN connection (no crash), one with > > > > > > > > > > a LAN connection (no crash) and one with AOL (crash). The AOL > > > > > > > > > > case looks like it does in fact start running OS detection. > > > > > > > > > > I know we agreed that the network detection process > > > > > > > > > > should be bypassed when Kaboodle connects to the Internet via > > > > > > > > > > a modem. Perhaps the OS detection process is not being > > > bypassed > > > > > > > > > > correctly? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Scott > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 29 Jul 2002, Igor Kotelevsky wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Scott. > > > > > > > > > > > I don't found any information about error. > > > > > > > > > > > Please update latest CVS source and run Kaboodle in debug > > > build. > > > > > > > > > > > You will find new log file - NidLog.txt. > > > > > > > > > > > Please send that file to me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The log files vpnsocket1.txt, vpnsocket2.txt now generate in > > > > > > > Kaboodle > > > > > > > > > > > install directory. > > > > > > > > > > > That files appeared in pre-Akmosoft period. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Igor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > > > > From: "Scott C. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > > > To: "Igor Kotelevsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > > > Cc: "mailbox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Kaboodle-devel" > > > > > > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 8:32 PM > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Bug Report, 22 July > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Igor: > > > > > > > > > > > > The Kaboodle log files are attached. I didn't even > > > > > > > > > > > > know Kaboodle was generating these. :) Can we write them > > > > > > > > > > > > into the Kaboodle install directory instead of C:\.? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please let me know what progress you make on this > > > > > > > > > > > > error source. It's holding up the public release of 0.90. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Scott > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 26 Jul 2002, Igor Kotelevsky wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Scott. > > > > > > > > > > > > > The output files you have attached were really short. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please attach the Kaboodle's log files vpnsocket1.txt, > > > > > > > > > vpnsocket2.txt. > > > > > > > > > > > > > You can find these files in the directory C:\. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please remove these files before your test. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The description of "A fatal exception OE" can be finding > > > on > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=/support/windows/topics/error > > > > > > > > > > > > > msg/kbfe0e.asp > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Igor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: "Scott C. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: "mailbox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cc: "Kaboodle-devel" > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 10:57 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Bug Report, 22 July > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > VK, Igor: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I tested this again tonight. I installed VC++ on my > > > > > > > > > > > > > > poor little Win98 laptop, applied the latest SP5 > > > service > > > > > pack. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I compiled the latest source, connected to AOL, and > > > > > started > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the debug. Output attached (I don't know why it's so > > > > > short, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but it is). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kaboodle starts, and the "Detecting Network" message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > box comes up. At this point, in my opinion, it should > > > > > detect > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that it's on a modem and give up. It doesn't. About > > > half a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > minute later, "Classifying New Devices" comes up. > > > About 10 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > seconds later, Windows then blue screens with the > > > message: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "A fatal exception OE has occurred at 0028:C004A08B in > > > VXD > > > > > > > > > NDIS(01) + > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 00002F1F. The current application will be terminated." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The second time I tried this, the debug output looks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > like it started the VNC auto-detection before it > > > crashed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any advice appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Scott > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 22 Jul 2002, Scott C. Best wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I tested Kaboodle on a un-networked Win98 machine > > > which > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > uses AOL as the dialup ISP. I connected to AOL, then > > > > > started > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kaboodle, and it blue-screen'd the PC when it got to > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Classifying Devices" part of startup. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ouch. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it possible to restrict network detection to use > > > only > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LAN-based interfaces, as opposed to > > > modem-interfaces? I > > > > > > > can't > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > imagine that we'd ever want to ping 255 devices on > > > one > > > > > of > > > > > > > AOL's > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > subnets... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Scott > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > This sf.net email is sponsored by: Dice - The leading online job > > > board > > > > > > > for high-tech professionals. 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