2016-04-21 9:48 GMT+02:00 Ben Cooksley <bcooks...@kde.org>:

> On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 7:41 PM, Elvis Angelaccio
> <elvis.angelac...@kdemail.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> > 2016-04-21 3:07 GMT+02:00 Ben Cooksley <bcooks...@kde.org>:
> >>
> >> On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 10:07 AM, Elvis Angelaccio
> >> <elvis.angelac...@kdemail.net> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > 2016-04-20 23:20 GMT+02:00 Albert Astals Cid <aa...@kde.org>:
> >> >>
> >> >> El dimecres, 20 d’abril de 2016, a les 23:00:26 CEST, Elvis
> Angelaccio
> >> >> va
> >> >> escriure:
> >> >> > 2016-04-20 22:09 GMT+02:00 Albert Astals Cid <aa...@kde.org>:
> >> >> > > El dimecres, 20 d’abril de 2016, a les 18:42:31 CEST, Elvis
> >> >> > > Angelaccio
> >> >> > > va
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > escriure:
> >> >> > > > Hi,
> >> >> > > > as many of you already know, KDE has a github mirror in place
> at
> >> >> > > > [1].
> >> >> > > > I've been playing with travis-ci [2] and I was surprised by how
> >> >> > > > easy
> >> >> > > > to
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > use
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > > and how well integrated with github is.
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > > I think it would be nice to have travis builds for the
> (mirrored)
> >> >> > > > repositories that provides a .travis.yml configuration file.
> The
> >> >> > > > builds
> >> >> > > > would run on the travis servers, so no additional overload on
> the
> >> >> > > > KDE
> >> >> > > > infrastructure. There is also virtually nothing to do for KDE
> >> >> > > > sysadmins.
> >> >> > > > The project's maintainer is the one in charge to setup the
> travis
> >> >> > > > configuration file (if he wants to), in order to have working
> >> >> > > > builds.
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > > Would this be possible from a technical p.o.v.? I think the KDE
> >> >> > > > github
> >> >> > > > account would have to register on the travis website and "sync"
> >> >> > > > its
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > github
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > > repositories - that's what I had to do with my personal github
> >> >> > > > account.
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > > The use cases could be many. For example, on travis I can
> install
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > optional
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > > dependencies that are not available on our Jenkins
> installation.
> >> >> > > > More
> >> >> > > > details in this post [3].
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > > What do you think?
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > I don't see the point in having two CI systems, just help improve
> >> >> > > the
> >> >> > > one
> >> >> > > we
> >> >> > > have.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > If you need dependencies, why did you start a new CI system
> instead
> >> >> > > of
> >> >> > > asking
> >> >> > > for the dependendies to be installed?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Well I did ask, but those deps are not available in the Ubuntu
> >> >> > repositories
> >> >> > currently used by Jenkins.
> >> >> > Maybe a solution could be to install them from source/manually, but
> >> >> > that
> >> >> > requires work from the sysadmins, who have already enough in their
> >> >> > plate.
> >> >>
> >> >> I see. Maybe you can offer to help them?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Not sure I have enough skills (especially now that we use docker),
> but I
> >> > can
> >> > ceirtainly try. Should I contact Ben?
> >>
> >> Docker shouldn't complicate things too much - it's essentially an
> >> enhanced chroot.
> >> If you're considering depending on this, have you spoken with the
> >> Kubuntu packagers regarding getting this (hopefully non-Qt dependent)
> >> dependency packaged?
> >>
> >> If it's Qt based, I do hope it isn't using QMake.
> >
> >
> > They are not Qt based. In Ark we have (optional) tests that relies on
> > packages such as unrar/rar and unarchiver. Both seems not packaged in the
> > ubuntu version used by Jenkins.
> > I'm fine with running these tests only locally on my system, but if
> there is
> > something I can do to have them in our CI would be super-awesome.
>
> We run Ubuntu Wily as our base. Have you checked to see whether 16.04
> will contain these utilities?
> I suspect unrar/rar will be missing due to it's proprietary nature.
>

This is correct. That's why we introduced a plugin for unarchiver in the
first place.
Yet it looks like they are both available in wily, respectively in the
multiverse [1][2] and universe [3] repos.

Would be possible to have at least [3]?

[1]: http://packages.ubuntu.com/wily/unar
[2]: http://packages.ubuntu.com/wily/rar
[3]: http://packages.ubuntu.com/wily/unar



>
> Cheers,
> Ben
>
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Ben
> >>
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> > I did not start a new CI, I was basically playing with travis for
> >> >> > fun.
> >> >> > But
> >> >> > then it turned out that it could solve an issue I have. The travis
> >> >> > infrastrucure is already there, why not use it if one or more
> >> >> > projects
> >> >> > could benefit? Seems a win-win to me.
> >> >>
> >> >> As a release team member i won't look at the github CI
> >> >>
> >> >> I will look at our official one, but you will look at the github one
> >> >> since
> >> >> for
> >> >> you "it's better"
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > I never said it's better. I think it would be a nice addition, doesn't
> >> > mean
> >> > that I would stop looking at our main CI
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> I can see this creating problems, like for example build.kde.org
> >> >> passing
> >> >> and
> >> >> githubCI not passing and you getting mad at me because we released
> >> >> something
> >> >> that doesn't work.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > This is a fair point, but see also my previous reply to Luca (the "who
> >> > cares" part).
> >> > I can promise you that I won't get mad at you, fwiw :)
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Cheers,
> >> >>   Albert
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> > > Cheers,
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >   Albert
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Cheers,
> >> >> > Elvis
> >> >> >
> >> >> > > > Regards,
> >> >> > > > Elvis
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > > [1]: https://github.com/KDE
> >> >> > > > [2]: https://travis-ci.org/
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > > [3]:
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> http://www.aelog.org/travis-ci-builds-of-kde-projects-on-archlinux-chroot/
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >
> >
>

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