On Friday, 15. April 2005 09:08, Bjarne Wichmann Petersen wrote:
> On Thursday 14 April 2005 18:21, Michael Nottebrock wrote:
> > > I couldn't figure out how to retrieve those information from the Zire
> > > myself.
> >
> > usbdevs -v probably.
>
> Only gives my the 2 of the 3.

Release is probably revision in hex, but since devices rarely ever behave 
differently enough between hardware revisions to require changing a 
usbd-on-attach-action, it should be omittable.

> > They do different things. Lines in devfs.conf are parsed and applied
> > by /etc/rc.d/devfs at bootup, rules from devfs.rules are loaded via the
> > devfs utility into devfs themselves and usbd only deals with USB and thus
> > can't be used for non-USB devices.
>
> But they all handle deviceentries in /dev

I'll put it differently: The functional overlap is not as big as you perceive 
it to be. Yes, devfs (with devfs.rules) can handle setting permissions for 
dynamically appearing and disappearing usb devices, as can usbd - but usbd 
cannot handle for instance firewire-devices, bluetooth devices, etc etc. On 
the other hand, devfs can ONLY manage devices, it cannot trigger arbitrary 
actions if the devices appear.

devfs.conf *could* theoretically go away, because you can do everything you 
can do with it with devfs rules as well - but it's only there for convenience 
anyway.

I would agree that the existence of devfs.rules and devfs-rulesets is not very 
well-known, at least compared to devfs.conf. That might be in part because 
dynamic devices are still not that very common and in part because the devfs 
manpage does not reference devfs.rules at all (and a devfs.rules manpage 
doesn't exist either). The latter can be considered a documentation bug.

> > > 4) I used 3-4 hours on this due to lack of documentation. So, how do
> > > are go about making an entry to the FAQ at freebsd.kde.org?
> >
> > Well, quite frankly, it's not a FAQ.
>
> Ok... I just thought it would be nice to other who'd like to use
> kpilot/palm with their FreeBSD-desktop to have a nice guide to how to do it
> since it doesn't work out-of-the-box... but alas, I'm wrong.

Well, we do have a HOWTO-section on freebsd.kde.org - if you'd care to write 
up a guide from your experiences, we'll happily add it to the site. Plain 
text and perhaps a few screenshots is enough, we can do the html markup for 
you.

Cheers,
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