hello,

newbie-loik, i let myself get encouraged to install fvwm to take it out for a bit of a test drive. when i found i didn't much care for it, i figured i really should upgrade the port, if i was to evaluate the thing fairly... which meant i needed to learn a little about portupgrade...

it all seems so reasonable, at the time! i cobbled a recipe together from various sources (see below), and started upgrading little stuff, like xpad, from v.13.1 to 2.6. feeling chuffed and a little cocky, .... [upmusic: theme from Jaws], i went on to fvwm, stellarium, portupgrade itself, thefish, and xfce4, through apparent levels of increasing complexity, but also with some success to the degree that i could still use the device. i decided in the end that i still didn't much care for what i'd seen of fvwm, but i still may not have given it a fair trial.

somewhere around mid-week, though, the instructions in the portupgrade marathon grew blurry, the error messages more ominous: "...unable to completely remove," "...no matching package," "...reinstall all perl modules...," & packages i had little or no recollection of insisted i install them because equally unfamiliar plugins "... *needed*" them. late thursday, after two days' (i hadn't cvsup'd for quite a while!) non-stop chunking-away, the box reported that it could not start kdeinit, and advised me to check my installation.

complications ensued.

late friday evening, however, messages began to indicate registering of k-apps with version numbers of 3.4.0. success! during this time, i had periodically snuck off, in a manner of speaking, as an alternate 'user' and using a comparatively crippled, but still functional xfce, successfully startx'd, enabling a bit of mozilla browsing, and some emailing at least. not everything worked with the teutonic snap & precision i'd come to expect in kde but i'm puzzled why xfce can operate within x, and kde doesn't seem to. it turns out that i never did properly upgrade xfce, as i'd convinced myself i had: (xfce-4.0.6 < needs updating (port has 4.2.1.1).

saturday afternoon, mirabile dictu!, i returned from work to a root prompt. i typed 'startx' as a regular user with some trepidation, but was relieved to see kde 3.4 coming up. woohoo!

unfortunately, i also can't seem to find kmail, knode, korganizer, or my fave clock screensaver. i've read the handbook, the past two months' worth of mailing list postings, and of course, post facto, i see the recommendation to backup my old kdmrc "beforehand in case the merge produces an invalid configuration," although i wasn't using kdm.

the experience has left a number of questions i'm hoping someone with more experience can help answer, but i'd most like to resurrect the kmail function from within kde 3.4.

i can still *see* mail files in the Desktop mail folder,so i'm guessing that i haven't totally erased everything. any pointers greatly appreciated. thanks for any & all replies

portupgrade 'recipe' used:

1] Cvsup ports tree, e.g.: cvsup -g -L 2 cvs-supfile
2] cd /usr/ports && make fetchindex (OR: pkgdb -uU [now deprecated])
3] cd ~ && /usr/local/sbin/portsdb -fu
4] /usr/local/sbin/pkgdb -fu
5] READ /usr/ports/UPDATING
6] READ /usr/ports/UPDATING
7] READ /usr/ports/UPDATING
8] pkg_version -v | grep -i "<"
9] Use portupgrade for those ports referenced in /user/ports/UPDATING accordingly e.g. /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade -rR filename
<much later>
10] portsclean -CDD
11] rm -rf /usr/ports/distfiles/*


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