On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 03:40:00AM +0000, Jon Evans wrote: > Chris, I thought your kicad-ogltest was going to make it so we could use > OpenGL by default and then automatically fall back to Cairo if there was a > problem -- what ended up happening with that, is there a technical problem > or is it just not there yet?
Life happened, I haven't really had much time to work on KiCad at _all_ since I started working on that. I was going to basically completely fix all this way better than we can do in the next month or so, but it was a lot of work and it never got done. :/ > > I'll make a first-run dialog if Wayne approves the idea -- it could be a > handy tool to use for future releases too -- we could store in the user > settings the last version that the first-run dialog was shown for, and > potentially load new first-run content in the future. > > -Jon > > On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 10:30 PM, Chris Pavlina <pavlina.ch...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > I like this. If you don't offer, everyone who's already used KiCad 4 and > > didn't realize they (c/sh)ould switch to GAL still won't notice that in > > KiCad 5. A first-run dialog would be a good idea IMO. > > > > On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 02:53:50AM +0000, Jon Evans wrote: > > > I know this would be work for someone to do and maybe I'd offer to do it > > if > > > the project leaders approve... > > > What about a one-time pop-up when first installing a release 5.0 that > > > appears if the config says the user was using legacy canvas, telling them > > > about how to switch and that they should check it out? > > > > > > -Jon > > > > > > On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 8:16 PM, Wayne Stambaugh <stambau...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > I don't have any issues with this but it will only apply to new > > > > installs. Existing installs will have the last canvas selected in the > > > > user's kicad config. > > > > > > > > On 12/30/2017 04:36 PM, Kristoffer Ödmark wrote: > > > > > The power of defaults ;) > > > > > > > > > > This is also something I have encountered has turned a lot of users > > > > > away, because when they try it, they dont really like the setup. So > > even > > > > > if they can change it, they give up before they realize they can. > > > > > > > > > > -Kristoffer > > > > > > > > > > On 12/30/2017 10:30 PM, Chris Pavlina wrote: > > > > >> On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 09:27:46PM +0000, Jeff Young wrote: > > > > >>> +1. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> (I used legacy for 6 months because I thought the only difference > > was > > > > >>> in rendering. I didn’t realise all the tools were different too….) > > > > >> > > > > >> I hear this a _lot_ from beginners. We're shipping so many cool new > > > > >> features that a surprising number of people don't know exist > > because we > > > > >> hide them. > > > > >> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Cheers, > > > > >>> Jeff. > > > > >>> > > > > >>>> On 30 Dec 2017, at 21:13, Chris Pavlina <pavlina.ch...@gmail.com> > > > > >>>> wrote: > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> Pleeeeeeease! > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> It makes no sense to use a canvas we call "legacy" as default. > > GAL may > > > > >>>> still not have 100% feature parity to allow _removing_ legacy but > > it's > > > > >>>> totally ready to be the default. > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 08:51:53PM +0000, José Ignacio wrote: > > > > >>>>> Since the GAL is pretty much feature complete (I have used it > > > > >>>>> exclusively > > > > >>>>> for the last year and a half) and the Cairo canvas has much > > improved > > > > >>>>> performance (it is *significantly* faster than legacy on my > > systems), > > > > >>>>> should pcbnew make the switch to have Cairo as the default > > canvas? > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> I understand OpenGL may still be undesirable because some > > defective > > > > or > > > > >>>>> misconfigured systems may have crashing issues with kicad > > > > >>>>> preventing the > > > > >>>>> user to switch away from OpenGL, but that may even not be the > > case > > > > >>>>> anymore. > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> _______________________________________________ > > > > >>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > > > > >>>> Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net > > > > >>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > > > > >>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > > > >>> > > > > >> > > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > > >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > > > > >> Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net > > > > >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > > > > >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > > > > > Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net > > > > > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > > > > > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > > > > Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net > > > > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > > > > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
