On Tue, Jan 02, 2018 at 02:20:10PM -0500, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: > It's exactly as insane as the cache has always been.
I respectfully disagree. As I recall from many years of using KiCad before this, nothing about the cache has ever spontaneously deleted all libraries without warning. That's a whole new level of insanity that deserves its own "what not to do" section in a UX book somewhere. (And before you think this is all just "this UX guide sez" vague complaining, don't forget that I and many others still have _no idea wtf we're doing_ trying to drive this thing.) > The only way I can > think of this happening is that the schematic was not saved after the > remapping and once all of the libraries are removed from the project > file but cache should still be valid if no save was performed. Let me > try remapping this project and I will get back to you. > > On 1/2/2018 2:08 PM, Chris Pavlina wrote: > > Ah, that explains my question mark case. That's insane. > > > > On Tue, Jan 02, 2018 at 01:08:11PM -0600, José Ignacio wrote: > >> One big problem is that even if everything fails, the project will show up > >> fine with all symbols, but they wont have the remap done. at the same time > >> the remapper deletes all library entries from the project file, which > >> causes it to open with question marks only if you reopen it again after > >> saving. It should show the question marks before then or make better use of > >> the cache. > >> > >> On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 12:44 PM, Chris Pavlina <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> Keep in mind my problem is not necessarily that things are _broken_ but > >>> perhaps that they are so opaque that they only make sense in the mind of > >>> the designer. As I said in the previous message, we've been getting TONS > >>> of people on IRC who can't figure out how the hell to drive this thing, > >>> and I count myself among them. Still takes me like three tries to load > >>> an old project without it stuffing everything up. > >>> > >>> On Tue, Jan 02, 2018 at 01:40:40PM -0500, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: > >>>> Please send me a sample project if possible. I have tested this every > >>>> which way I can think of and it works fine for everything I throw at it. > >>>> The only time things fall apart are when the cache is corrupted or > >>>> missing and/or rescues have be ignored. In those cases there is nothing > >>>> I can do because the proper symbols do not exist anywhere so remapping > >>>> is not possible. > >>>> > >>>> On 1/2/2018 1:33 PM, Chris Pavlina wrote: > >>>>> Are we really going to do an RC now without any more work to the remap > >>>>> stuff? I just had it ruin another project last night. It behaves very > >>>>> poorly when things also have to be rescued or libraries are missing, it > >>>>> seems. > >>>>> > >>>>> On Tue, Jan 02, 2018 at 09:10:20AM -0500, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: > >>>>>> On 1/2/2018 8:58 AM, Tomasz Wlostowski wrote: > >>>>>>> On 28/12/17 20:24, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: > >>>>>>>> There are a few outstanding crash bugs that need to be fixed before > >>> we > >>>>>>>> can consider branching the stable 5 release. Here is the list of > >>>>>>>> unresolved crash bugs that effect the development branch: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/kicad/+bug/1562788 > >>>>>>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/kicad/+bug/1732274 > >>>>>>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/kicad/+bug/1738872 > >>>>>>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/kicad/+bug/1738999 > >>>>>>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/kicad/+bug/1739614 > >>>>>>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/kicad/+bug/1740253 > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Hey Wayne, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I fixed the remaining 2 bugs yesterday (the STEP import one is a bug > >>> in > >>>>>>> OCE). Please proceed with the 5.0-rc. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Tom > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Hi Tom, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Thanks!. I wont have time to get to this until the weekend. If there > >>>>>> are no additional critical severity bug reports by then, I will create > >>>>>> the version 5 branch. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Cheers, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Wayne > >>>>>> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > >>>>>> Post to : [email protected] > >>>>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > >>>>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > >>> Post to : [email protected] > >>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > >>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > >>> _______________________________________________ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers Post to : [email protected] Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp

