Honestly, with this symbol library stuff it's been hard for me to figure out what's a bug and what's a confusing design decision. Bug reports for the latter are rather frowned upon so I've been refraining from filing many bugs.
On Tue, Jan 02, 2018 at 02:51:14PM -0500, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: > I just tested this repo and it failed to remap every symbol so either > something has been broken or this project is a corner case that I > haven't stumbled across yet. I will keep informed of my progress. In > the future, please file bug report when you see something like this. If > you just discuss it on irc, I have no way of knowing this is an issue > unless I manage to free up some time (unlikely any time soon) to spend > on irc. > > On 1/2/2018 2:42 PM, José Ignacio wrote: > > This sequence of actions is what puts the project on a stuffed up state: > > > > * Open schematic and be greeted with some symbols that need rescue, > > rescue a couple symbols > > * Be greeted by the remap dialog (1) > > * Regret remapping and quit without save > > * Open schematic again > > * Be greeted by the rescue dialog, with ALL symbols, refuse > > * Remap dialog fails to find anything, click through (2) > > > > Schematic looks fine, but the remap and rescue dialogs will show up > > every time even though there is a valid sym-lib-table. > > > > (1) At this point the pro file is overwritten, deleting all project > > library entries > > (2) At this point the pro file is overwritten again!, clobbering the > > backup (SOL) > > > > If you accept the second rescue you will have to map everything > > manually. The remapper should really take the existing sym-lib-table or > > just not clobber the pro file until the schematic is saved. > > > > The close without save step should be perfectly valid if you're just > > peeking at an old project and (possibly much later) you want to go > > modify it you're greeted with that bad surprise. > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 1:28 PM, Chris Pavlina <[email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jan 02, 2018 at 02:20:10PM -0500, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: > > > It's exactly as insane as the cache has always been. > > > > I respectfully disagree. As I recall from many years of using KiCad > > before this, nothing about the cache has ever spontaneously deleted all > > libraries without warning. That's a whole new level of insanity that > > deserves its own "what not to do" section in a UX book somewhere. (And > > before you think this is all just "this UX guide sez" vague complaining, > > don't forget that I and many others still have _no idea wtf we're doing_ > > trying to drive this thing.) > > > > > The only way I can > > > think of this happening is that the schematic was not saved after the > > > remapping and once all of the libraries are removed from the project > > > file but cache should still be valid if no save was performed. Let me > > > try remapping this project and I will get back to you. > > > > > > On 1/2/2018 2:08 PM, Chris Pavlina wrote: > > > > Ah, that explains my question mark case. That's insane. > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 02, 2018 at 01:08:11PM -0600, José Ignacio wrote: > > > >> One big problem is that even if everything fails, the project > > will show up > > > >> fine with all symbols, but they wont have the remap done. at > > the same time > > > >> the remapper deletes all library entries from the project file, > > which > > > >> causes it to open with question marks only if you reopen it > > again after > > > >> saving. It should show the question marks before then or make > > better use of > > > >> the cache. > > > >> > > > >> On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 12:44 PM, Chris Pavlina > > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > > > >> wrote: > > > >> > > > >>> Keep in mind my problem is not necessarily that things are > > _broken_ but > > > >>> perhaps that they are so opaque that they only make sense in > > the mind of > > > >>> the designer. As I said in the previous message, we've been > > getting TONS > > > >>> of people on IRC who can't figure out how the hell to drive > > this thing, > > > >>> and I count myself among them. Still takes me like three tries > > to load > > > >>> an old project without it stuffing everything up. > > > >>> > > > >>> On Tue, Jan 02, 2018 at 01:40:40PM -0500, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: > > > >>>> Please send me a sample project if possible. I have tested > > this every > > > >>>> which way I can think of and it works fine for everything I > > throw at it. > > > >>>> The only time things fall apart are when the cache is > > corrupted or > > > >>>> missing and/or rescues have be ignored. In those cases there > > is nothing > > > >>>> I can do because the proper symbols do not exist anywhere so > > remapping > > > >>>> is not possible. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> On 1/2/2018 1:33 PM, Chris Pavlina wrote: > > > >>>>> Are we really going to do an RC now without any more work to > > the remap > > > >>>>> stuff? I just had it ruin another project last night. It > > behaves very > > > >>>>> poorly when things also have to be rescued or libraries are > > missing, it > > > >>>>> seems. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> On Tue, Jan 02, 2018 at 09:10:20AM -0500, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: > > > >>>>>> On 1/2/2018 8:58 AM, Tomasz Wlostowski wrote: > > > >>>>>>> On 28/12/17 20:24, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: > > > >>>>>>>> There are a few outstanding crash bugs that need to be > > fixed before > > > >>> we > > > >>>>>>>> can consider branching the stable 5 release. Here is the > > list of > > > >>>>>>>> unresolved crash bugs that effect the development branch: > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/kicad/+bug/1562788 > > <https://bugs.launchpad.net/kicad/+bug/1562788> > > > >>>>>>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/kicad/+bug/1732274 > > <https://bugs.launchpad.net/kicad/+bug/1732274> > > > >>>>>>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/kicad/+bug/1738872 > > <https://bugs.launchpad.net/kicad/+bug/1738872> > > > >>>>>>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/kicad/+bug/1738999 > > <https://bugs.launchpad.net/kicad/+bug/1738999> > > > >>>>>>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/kicad/+bug/1739614 > > <https://bugs.launchpad.net/kicad/+bug/1739614> > > > >>>>>>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/kicad/+bug/1740253 > > <https://bugs.launchpad.net/kicad/+bug/1740253> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> Hey Wayne, > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> I fixed the remaining 2 bugs yesterday (the STEP import > > one is a bug > > > >>> in > > > >>>>>>> OCE). Please proceed with the 5.0-rc. > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> Tom > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Hi Tom, > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Thanks!. I wont have time to get to this until the > > weekend. If there > > > >>>>>> are no additional critical severity bug reports by then, I > > will create > > > >>>>>> the version 5 branch. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Cheers, > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Wayne > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > > > >>>>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > > <https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers> > > > >>>>>> Post to : [email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]> > > > >>>>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > > <https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers> > > > >>>>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > <https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp> > > > >>> > > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > > >>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > > <https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers> > > > >>> Post to : [email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]> > > > >>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > > <https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers> > > > >>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > <https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp> > > > >>> > > > > _______________________________________________ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers Post to : [email protected] Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
