what about  keeping four buttons :

*Defaults* that reset all hotkeys *of the current tab* to default

*Reset* that reset *the selected* hotkey only to default

*Cancel* that close the window and undo the current changes

*Save* that close the window and save the current changes


With a tooltip when getting the mouse over each button that clearly says this.


On 11/01/2018 13:16, Clemens Koller wrote:
Hi!

On 2018-01-11 02:07, Seth Hillbrand wrote:
I don't recall when this change happened but I'd like any feedback on whether 
folks are adverse
to reverting to the 4.0.7 tabbed layout while keeping the "Reset" and 
"Defaults" buttons,
that I think are really good additions.
I agree, but I still don't understand why we don't use the huge screen 
real-estate we have nowadays on our desks and display all of them in one table 
with i.e. four columns. It would be easy then to check the hotkeys across all 
tools without changing tabs.
The Buttons "Default" might become "Reset all Hotkeys to Kicad's defaults. Are you 
sure Y/N?"
The Buttons "Reset" might become "Reset to previous settings" - but that might simply be 
the "Cancel" button.


The menu entry Help -> List Hotkeys seems redundant to Preferences -> Hotkey 
Options -> Edit Hotkeys.
One of the dialogs might be removed.
In the latest-git, the Hotkey '?' doesn't work for me. I get a beep, when I am 
lucky... usually it is just ignored.

In Eeschema, the Help -> List Hotkeys doesn't show the '?'
There the Hotkey-Editor can be reached via Preferences -> General Options -> 
Controls Tab...

GUI consistency would improve UX a lot. These are IMO the low-hanging fruits to 
attract users to use Kicad.

Regards,

Clemens

On 2018-01-11 02:07, Seth Hillbrand wrote:
I feel that there is a usability issue with the current hotkeys editor that is 
a regression from the 4.0.7 hotkeys editor.

I've attached images for both to this message.  The current editor opens with a tree view 
that hides the hotkeys below "Common".  Users would be forgiven for not 
realizing that there were additional hotkeys specific to each application -- see 
current_hotkeys.png

Previously, the hotkeys were displayed in tabs that were, I think, more clear 
-- see prev_hotkeys.png.

I don't recall when this change happened but I'd like any feedback on whether folks are adverse to 
reverting to the 4.0.7 tabbed layout while keeping the "Reset" and "Defaults" 
buttons, that I think are really good additions.

-S


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