Hi All- Sorry, this seems to have gotten off-track. Let's pause the button discussion for a moment. I'm really more concerned about the tree-list layout hiding hotkeys from users. Does anyone feel like we need the treelist here?
Chris, I know this was originally your commit and I don't mean to be overly negative about it. What was the original motivation for it? Would you be open to my modifying it to improve the accessibility? Thanks- Seth On 11. Januar 2018 um 19:24, Andrey Kuznetsov <kandre...@gmail.com> wrote: > If that would be the intended functionality, then I'd suggest "Reset > Selected" instead of "Reset". > > On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 5:01 AM, yann jautard <brico...@free.fr> wrote: > >> what about keeping four buttons : >> >> *Defaults* that reset all hotkeys *of the current tab* to default >> >> *Reset* that reset *the selected* hotkey only to default >> >> *Cancel* that close the window and undo the current changes >> >> *Save* that close the window and save the current changes >> >> >> With a tooltip when getting the mouse over each button that clearly says >> this. >> >> >> >> On 11/01/2018 13:16, Clemens Koller wrote: >> >>> Hi! >>> >>> On 2018-01-11 02:07, Seth Hillbrand wrote: >>> >>>> I don't recall when this change happened but I'd like any feedback on >>>> whether folks are adverse >>>> to reverting to the 4.0.7 tabbed layout while keeping the "Reset" and >>>> "Defaults" buttons, >>>> that I think are really good additions. >>>> >>> I agree, but I still don't understand why we don't use the huge screen >>> real-estate we have nowadays on our desks and display all of them in one >>> table with i.e. four columns. It would be easy then to check the hotkeys >>> across all tools without changing tabs. >>> The Buttons "Default" might become "Reset all Hotkeys to Kicad's >>> defaults. Are you sure Y/N?" >>> The Buttons "Reset" might become "Reset to previous settings" - but that >>> might simply be the "Cancel" button. >>> >>> >>> The menu entry Help -> List Hotkeys seems redundant to Preferences -> >>> Hotkey Options -> Edit Hotkeys. >>> One of the dialogs might be removed. >>> In the latest-git, the Hotkey '?' doesn't work for me. I get a beep, >>> when I am lucky... usually it is just ignored. >>> >>> In Eeschema, the Help -> List Hotkeys doesn't show the '?' >>> There the Hotkey-Editor can be reached via Preferences -> General >>> Options -> Controls Tab... >>> >>> GUI consistency would improve UX a lot. These are IMO the low-hanging >>> fruits to attract users to use Kicad. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Clemens >>> >>> On 2018-01-11 02:07, Seth Hillbrand wrote: >>> >>>> I feel that there is a usability issue with the current hotkeys editor >>>> that is a regression from the 4.0.7 hotkeys editor. >>>> >>>> I've attached images for both to this message. The current editor >>>> opens with a tree view that hides the hotkeys below "Common". Users would >>>> be forgiven for not realizing that there were additional hotkeys specific >>>> to each application -- see current_hotkeys.png >>>> >>>> Previously, the hotkeys were displayed in tabs that were, I think, more >>>> clear -- see prev_hotkeys.png. >>>> >>>> I don't recall when this change happened but I'd like any feedback on >>>> whether folks are adverse to reverting to the 4.0.7 tabbed layout while >>>> keeping the "Reset" and "Defaults" buttons, that I think are really good >>>> additions. >>>> >>>> -S >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >>>> Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net >>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >>> Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net >>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >> Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> > > > > -- > Remember The Past, Live The Present, Change The Future > Those who look only to the past or the present are certain to miss the > future [JFK] > > kandre...@gmail.com > Live Long and Prosper, > Andrey > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > >
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