David Brown wrote: > On Wed, Dec 05, 2007 at 05:07:48PM -0800, SJS wrote: > >> No, and I won't. You floated a big number as an example of "not >> wheel-spinning", and alone, that isn't sufficient. Or even a good >> indicator, much less a refutation of wheel-spinning. > > Why is it any better than giving a different meaningless number out of a > bug tracking system. Without looking at the bugs you can't tell how > significant they are, so it doesn't tell you anything either. > > I'm not going to post a changelog for the last four years of the linux > kernel development. It would be kind of silly, especially since it is all > readily available. > > But, to be quite honest, calling the work of current linux kernel > developers wheel-spinning is rather insulting. > > I joined this list rather recently, and am trying to get an idea of what > kind of group it is. So far, all I've really learned is that it doesn't > really have kernel developers on it, and the postings almost seem hostile > to kernel developers. I'm not sure I really would want to go to a regular > KPLUG meeting, or even continue on the mailing list.
Dave, a lot of email can be read in different ways. Sometimes here, the tone may be blunt, perhaps even sounding offensive if you're not used to having "accepted wisdom" challenged. It is my observation that personal attacks and outright meanness are quite quickly and strongly discouraged, but no one goes out of their way to avoid disagreement. There's nothing wrong with you disagreeing with someone else, but I think part of this thread has been trying to make the point that you haven't made any convincing argument for _your_ view nor made any substantive critique of opposing arguments. The attack on your argument is not an attack on you (or kernel programmers, or ...). We don't always sit around disagreeing, sometimes there are remarkable efforts to solve problems and brainstorm ideas. In _my_ opinion that's the gold in this list. The argument stuff if merely the entertainment. :-) Regards, ..jim -- [email protected] http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-list
