begin  quoting Robert Donovan as of Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 02:41:55AM -0700:
> On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 2:11 AM, Tracy R Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Robert Donovan wrote:
> >  > Is not asking first part of being considerate? As in, in consideration
> >  > of the fact that you may not want me using your bandwidth for some
> >  > reason, I'm asking?
> >
> >  No. Being considerate is securing your access point when you don't want
> >  other people using it so that my laptop doesn't connect to your
> >  accidentally causing me to unwittingly violate your wishes. By having
> >  such a policy but not taking action to enforce it you put me into a bad
> >  situation.
> 
> Up to the moment you ar aware that your laptop has connected you are
> not in a bad situation. The point you become aware of the connection

bad?!

> and choose to exploit the situation by remaining connected, it is on

Foul! Loaded words.

> you. I don't know how your laptop is set up, but I have to choose to
> conect to any wireless network I detect. It doesn't happen
> automatically. Being aware of an open signal is not the same as
> choosing to make use of that signal.

When I become *aware* that a wireless connection is _not_ meant to be
open, then I *ought* to disconnect, yes.

How do you distinguish between an open-for-all and closed-for-all-by-
someone-incompetent wireless networks?

There's a presumption of perfect knowledge going on here.

-- 
It's a sad day when competence takes the penalty and incompetence is rewarded.
Stewart Stremler


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