On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 12:09 AM, Andrew Lentvorski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bob La Quey wrote: > > > > PS. I am still waiting for anyone to address the point > > I made earlier. Fires are easily extinguished if they > > are detected early before they grow to be huge conflagrations. > > > > There is existing technology for detecting fires within > > minutes of their initiation. SoCal is not using it. Why? > > > > I wish you guys would say, "Hey Bob, you are an idiot." > > > > Well, you didn't actually provide us with anything concrete one way or > another. If I'm going to call you an idiot, I'd at least like to have a > reason.
Duh, I provided a concept. Stop fires when the are small. I refer ed without links to Spanish Forests. I asked for private responses if anyone was interested. > > Instead you ignore any attack on the fundamental problem > > and simply get into the political bureaucratic circus that > > follows ... Lemmings, lemmings, more damn lemmings. > > > > Increasingly I wonder why I spend any time here. Once I > > though this was a group capable of thought. Even occasionally > > capable of innovative thought. Increasingly I realize that > > all I am doing is wasting time here. > > > > Your turn for the pills, Bob. Ad hominen. But not unexpected. Also not important. I have an older and better solution. > Lan asked you very nicely (especially for Lan!) for references about > firefighting detection and efficacy. He even provided some starting links. I guess I missed this. Would you (Lan) repeat your request. What was the request? What were the links? What is Andy refering to? > You have provided none in return. See above. > Before you complain about others not thinking, perhaps you should provide a > few facts for us to actually think *about*? Here are a few simple facts that require no links. They simply require common sense. A fire is most easily extinguished when it is small. Do you agree? All fires begin small. Do you agree? If we can find fires when the are small then they are easier to extinguish then when they are larger. Do you agree? Assertion: We can find fires throughout SoCal when they are quite small. At this point I asked for private email if anyone was interested. The references are to my own work, which I will discuss publicly but only if there are people who are actually paying attention and are interested. Maybe my earlier message was unclear. If so I apologize. It is difficult to make even a simple statement that all can understand. > I was actually looking forward to your links (distributed detection and > economically viable response is an interesting topic) and am a bit > disappointed that you haven't provided any. You seem to feel the only reality is reference to the works of others. Believe it or not Andy, occasionlly people do original work ;) While I am far from being the definitive source on this subject, I can assure you, and will here in this public forum, discuss the physical system that we KPLUGers could build to do the detection needed. Others must provide the response systems. I will not discuss this unless people pay some minimal attenition. I assert that we could, with quite realizable physical systems, detect most of the fires in SoCal within a few minutes of their beginning. I am quite willing, even eager, to discuss how in this forum for all to criticize. I will have to look up the old references since they seem to be of such importance to you. Sigh, BobLQ -- [email protected] http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-list
