Gus Wirth wrote:
> Todd Walton wrote:
>> On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Gregory K. Ruiz-Ade
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> All my mail goes exclusively through Gmail.  I even use their SMTP
>>> services
>>> to send my mail. I primarily do it all via IMAP, but on occasion use
>>> the web
>>> interface, and it all seems to work well enough.
>>
>> How does that work?  What would I do to my email setup to funnel it
>> all through Gmail?
> 
> Set everything to go to smtp.gmail.com on port 25. However, most ISP's
> block port 25 except to their own servers... 

Hmmm, I didn't know that. Roadrunner doesn't. I wonder what proportion
of ISPs block outgoing smtp?

> So try port 587 with SSL
> encryption instead. See
> <http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=86401#>

Double-hmmm, port 587 is said to be the "preferred port" (at least on
paper, at least as interpreted at
  http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2704,1838667,00.asp
And so a couple of other google-hits seem to confirm the above, as well
as the concept that 25 is (supposed to be) reserved for submission
(only) by "local" clients.

I wonder what the general stats are on availability of 587.
Also I suppose the intention of 25/587 use would explain why ISPs might
filter outgoing port 25 -- otherwise, I would wonder why ISPs filter
anything outgoing anyway?

- - -
Some experimenting shows that both 25 and 587 works fine for a
web-hosting service I have.

I just might consider sending all my outgoing mail there because they
support TLS and roadrunner doesn't seem to.

Maybe I should consider dumping my rr email address altogether; then I'd
 be using TLS both directions.

Hmmm, that might also be good preparation for switching ISP.

Regards,
..jim (hmmm-ing a lot!)


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