On 5/16/08, James G. Sack (jim) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Gus Wirth wrote:
> > Set everything to go to smtp.gmail.com on port 25. However, most ISP's
> > block port 25 except to their own servers...
>
>  Hmmm, I didn't know that. Roadrunner doesn't. I wonder what proportion
>  of ISPs block outgoing smtp?
[snip]
>  I wonder what the general stats are on availability of 587.
>  Also I suppose the intention of 25/587 use would explain why ISPs might
>  filter outgoing port 25 -- otherwise, I would wonder why ISPs filter
>  anything outgoing anyway?

It was my impression that this was to prevent their customers from
using of open SMTP relays for sending spam, or at least to keep them
from sending email through unknown (to the ISP) servers that may or
may not be legitimate. ISPs that block port 25 outbound generally
allow you to send port 25 through their own (authenticated) mail
server, even if you're using a different "From" address than your
ISP-provided email account.

For Gmail, it's important to use their own SMTP server, because your
sent mail automatically gets saved in their mail ecosystem (to be
accessed by IMAP or the Web interface).

-- 
Brad Beyenhof                                   http://augmentedfourth.com
Have the courage to be ignorant of a great number of things, in order to
avoid the calamity of being ignorant of everything.
                 ~ Sydney Smith, English essayist and preacher (1771-1845)


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