begin  quoting Andrew Lentvorski as of Wed, May 21, 2008 at 04:14:03PM -0700:
> Doug LaRue wrote:
> >I find it interesting that people will go to google to find information 
> >from a well known website instead of using the website itself. FYI,
> >it took me about 4 clicks to find the CS107( three of them ) course
> >listed for this fall.  sdsu.edu->Departments/Offices->Computer
> >Science/Dept of -> Fall Class Schedule
> 
> I got those, but that doesn't get me the websites for previous years.

/Are/ the websities for previous years still available?

[chop]
> I'm probably lucky that SDSU still actually has a Solaris server. 
> However, they seem to have lots of money for stupid things like 
> Blackboard instead of wiki's/forums.
> 
> Although, I know how Blackboard got in.  They simply made security an 
> SEP (somebody else's problem).  So, instead of having someone at SDSU 
> responsible for a breakin, they can point at the Blackboard folks and 
> say "They told us it was secure.  Not our fault."

I looked at Blackboard. It sucked. I can't use it from home*, and that's
a killer. So I didn't, and won't, until it meets _my_ standards.

(*I won't enable Javascript on my machines; if SDSU wants me to use it,
they can supply the hardware and network connection.)

> >I've seen naive computer users use the internet search box for everything
> >and that includes when they are told to load a homepage. It didn't dawn
> >on me that skilled users would bypass looking for data on a known website
> >and use the search engine instead. I wonder how common this practice is?
> 
> A) "Naive" user is a lot more common than you would expect.

Using google to search wikipedia is faster than using wikipedia's own
search -- with those sorts of lessons, why would we think less of a user
who reaches for google first? It's *smart* to use a search engine if the
results are the same, aside from performance.

> B) Not every topic has a specific entry point like this one
> 
> This should be a *big* concern for people on this list--especially as 
> Google gobbles up more and more marketshare.  Much of the value of the 
> internet is in the fringe--the obscure, the non-mainstream, the unpopular.

Yes.

What can we do about it?  I've been poking various search engines, and
finding that they're all silent about your cs530 web-pages. It's eerie.
I want to grep the webserver logs to see if they've been indexed at all.
Is it just that there's no link to them from anywhere?

> Otherwise, it's just another method of feeding pablum to the masses.

Welcome to Web 2.0.

-- 
There's a traffic-jam in my tubes!
Stewart Stremler


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