Legatus([EMAIL PROTECTED])@Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 01:28:04AM -0500:
> On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 16:57, Ralph Shumaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > <snip>
> >
> > I've been trying to think of how I might be able to do something like that
> > in linux.  wget is just as tenacious as File Hound for files whose download
> > keeps breaking.  I think there's a way to tell wget not to bother fetching
> > duplicates.  What I'm not sure about is how to get wget to run like a
> > daemon, and listen for copied links.  Any ideas?
> >
> > Sure seems a lot of over thinking is going on in this thread. KDE has kget
> in the kdenetwork package, and there is gwget for gnome at
> http://www.gnome.org/projects/gwget/. They both handle scenarios like this.
> Nice little gui apps that run in your notification area.

I don't usually give this topic *any* thought.. I just abuse FF's
tabs  :-)

The solutions given do seem to overlook existing kde and gnome
tools, though.  I tend to see that in a positive light, though.
Writing a small script that listens to a pipe and does what I want
is much more likely to fit my requirements.  It actually seems to
me that Gnome and KDE tools are often the ones that are
over-thought and over-wrought.  The environments and dependencies
certainly are.

As time passes, increasing numbers of Windows "refugees" are
starting to use, and write programs for Linux.  My own perception
is that they tend to focus on GUI desktop apps.  Unfortunately,
their only frame of reference is too often the MS paradigm.  They
want to write a "killer app" that does all kinds of things.  Even
when they write small ones, they often ignore the conventions that
make Unix/Linux an excellent environment.

Gnome in particular has bothered me in this way for quite a while.
I tried to start gnumeric from the command line with a filename
argument (quite a while ago now), but it threw away the argument.
No error, no file opened in the spreadsheet, no manpage to explain
how to call it...  This isn't the end of life, of course, but it
*does* rub me the wrong way.  I do use Gnome or KDE apps when I
need to.  I just find that when apps are written "the unix way"
they make my system more flexible so I can do what I want, the
*way* I want.

I may just be jaded, but I have a strong suspicion that kdenetwork
and gwget introduce a lot of complexity, but wouldn't really make
the environment work /my/ way.  Can they read from $STDIN?  Do they
do lots of stuff? Or do they do one thing well?  I honestly don't
know because I stopped looking to those projects for simple,
flexible solutions.

A 5-6 line script and a named pipe that /any/ app can write to,
that seems far more simple and flexible to me.

Wade Curry
syntaxman



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