Phil Maley wrote:

> I am wondering why we don't just use yahoo groups. I run two or three
> yahoo mailing lists and it just keeps working with no problems. Their
> service is free although there is some advertising. They also provide
> plenty of space for uploading files, photos etc. Maybe we shouldn't
> try to muddy the waters at this time but it is a serious alternative.

I really don't know what to do.  The old list at mailinglists.com worked
flawlessly for two years before it just went belly-up for 4 days, but it's
back and working fine now.  All I have to do is uncheck a couple of boxes
and we could migrate back to that one in a heartbeat and leave this one in
the dust.  I'm not real impressed with the service we've gotten here.  I've
emailed them with about 10 messages and gotten exactly one reply from a
human saying "we'll check into that".  Of course service wasn't that great
from the previous list either, but then we never needed it either.  This
list has a lot of handy bells and whistles, but people have always had
problems getting signed up for it (which is a hassle for me), and now with
most of the messages disappearing, we need to do something different because
it's just not getting the job done.

I have a personal hangup with yahoo groups.  Even if Yahoo doesn't sell your
email address to others, you address is just sitting out there for the
pickin' by the marketer's search engines.  This list and the last were
"private" lists, and unless you're a member, you don't have access to the
member list, and even then, they are painful to extract (ask me how I know).
I'm working on my third week with new email address, and haven't had a
single spam message yet!  I'd like to keep it that way.  And the endless
advertising, popups, banner ads, and having to scroll down through it all to
get to the actual message just makes me crazy.

I AM convinced that there is a problem with this list though.  Although only
a couple of guys have cc'd me on messages that were sent to the list, at
least ten (that I know of) made it to me, but not the list, which absolves
their ISP, and strongly suggests a problem at mylist.net. And I've sent
serveral myself that didn't make it.   I'm assuming that the folks at
mylist.net are on vacation this weekend, but will jump on this on Tuesday
morning.  Maybe we should give them until Wednesday or so to figure it out
before we jump ship.  Also, if we keep trying to use the system, we might
find more clues to help them identify the problem.

One difference between this time and the last time is that I have a list of
everybody's email address that is on this list, and can easily send a
message to all subscribers, regardless of whether the list is working or
not.  Although it would be a hassle for me to add folks back to the old list
myself, I could send a message telling folks to resubscribe, and how to do
it, so nobody should be left behind.

After Wednesday, we'll think of something, but I'm certainly open to
suggestions...

Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL
N56ML "at"  hiwaay.net
see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford



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