Mark,
I agree with you that we should wait till Wednesday to see if it can be
resolved. Absolutely NO to Yahoo or other freebies which bombard us with
advertisement and spam. If this list does not get corrected promptly by the
people at Mylist then by all means let's go back to Mailinglist. After I
joined Road Runner, I did not receive any spam for over a year and now I get
it almost daily. You know, if I had helped all those foreigners needing a
bank to put their millions in, I could be the richest man in America by now.

Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Wales, WI  USA
E-mail me at flyk...@wi.rr.com
Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at
http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark Langford" <n5...@hiwaay.net>
To: "KR builders and pilots" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2003 1:33 PM
Subject: Re: KR>problems with KRnet?


> Phil Maley wrote:
>
> > I am wondering why we don't just use yahoo groups. I run two or three
> > yahoo mailing lists and it just keeps working with no problems. Their
> > service is free although there is some advertising. They also provide
> > plenty of space for uploading files, photos etc. Maybe we shouldn't
> > try to muddy the waters at this time but it is a serious alternative.
>
> I really don't know what to do.  The old list at mailinglists.com worked
> flawlessly for two years before it just went belly-up for 4 days, but it's
> back and working fine now.  All I have to do is uncheck a couple of boxes
> and we could migrate back to that one in a heartbeat and leave this one in
> the dust.  I'm not real impressed with the service we've gotten here.
I've
> emailed them with about 10 messages and gotten exactly one reply from a
> human saying "we'll check into that".  Of course service wasn't that great
> from the previous list either, but then we never needed it either.  This
> list has a lot of handy bells and whistles, but people have always had
> problems getting signed up for it (which is a hassle for me), and now with
> most of the messages disappearing, we need to do something different
because
> it's just not getting the job done.
>
> I have a personal hangup with yahoo groups.  Even if Yahoo doesn't sell
your
> email address to others, you address is just sitting out there for the
> pickin' by the marketer's search engines.  This list and the last were
> "private" lists, and unless you're a member, you don't have access to the
> member list, and even then, they are painful to extract (ask me how I
know).
> I'm working on my third week with new email address, and haven't had a
> single spam message yet!  I'd like to keep it that way.  And the endless
> advertising, popups, banner ads, and having to scroll down through it all
to
> get to the actual message just makes me crazy.
>
> I AM convinced that there is a problem with this list though.  Although
only
> a couple of guys have cc'd me on messages that were sent to the list, at
> least ten (that I know of) made it to me, but not the list, which absolves
> their ISP, and strongly suggests a problem at mylist.net. And I've sent
> serveral myself that didn't make it.   I'm assuming that the folks at
> mylist.net are on vacation this weekend, but will jump on this on Tuesday
> morning.  Maybe we should give them until Wednesday or so to figure it out
> before we jump ship.  Also, if we keep trying to use the system, we might
> find more clues to help them identify the problem.
>
> One difference between this time and the last time is that I have a list
of
> everybody's email address that is on this list, and can easily send a
> message to all subscribers, regardless of whether the list is working or
> not.  Although it would be a hassle for me to add folks back to the old
list
> myself, I could send a message telling folks to resubscribe, and how to do
> it, so nobody should be left behind.
>
> After Wednesday, we'll think of something, but I'm certainly open to
> suggestions...
>
> Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL
> N56ML "at"  hiwaay.net
> see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford
>
>
>
>
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