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----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Langford" <n5...@hiwaay.net>
To: "KR builders and pilots" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2003 1:33 PM
Subject: Re: KR>problems with KRnet?


> Phil Maley wrote:
>
> > I am wondering why we don't just use yahoo groups. I run two or three
> > yahoo mailing lists and it just keeps working with no problems. Their
> > service is free although there is some advertising. They also provide
> > plenty of space for uploading files, photos etc. Maybe we shouldn't
> > try to muddy the waters at this time but it is a serious alternative.
>
> I really don't know what to do.  The old list at mailinglists.com worked
> flawlessly for two years before it just went belly-up for 4 days, but it's
> back and working fine now.  All I have to do is uncheck a couple of boxes
> and we could migrate back to that one in a heartbeat and leave this one in
> the dust.  I'm not real impressed with the service we've gotten here.
I've
> emailed them with about 10 messages and gotten exactly one reply from a
> human saying "we'll check into that".  Of course service wasn't that great
> from the previous list either, but then we never needed it either.  This
> list has a lot of handy bells and whistles, but people have always had
> problems getting signed up for it (which is a hassle for me), and now with
> most of the messages disappearing, we need to do something different
because
> it's just not getting the job done.
>
> I have a personal hangup with yahoo groups.  Even if Yahoo doesn't sell
your
> email address to others, you address is just sitting out there for the
> pickin' by the marketer's search engines.  This list and the last were
> "private" lists, and unless you're a member, you don't have access to the
> member list, and even then, they are painful to extract (ask me how I
know).
> I'm working on my third week with new email address, and haven't had a
> single spam message yet!  I'd like to keep it that way.  And the endless
> advertising, popups, banner ads, and having to scroll down through it all
to
> get to the actual message just makes me crazy.
>
> I AM convinced that there is a problem with this list though.  Although
only
> a couple of guys have cc'd me on messages that were sent to the list, at
> least ten (that I know of) made it to me, but not the list, which absolves
> their ISP, and strongly suggests a problem at mylist.net. And I've sent
> serveral myself that didn't make it.   I'm assuming that the folks at
> mylist.net are on vacation this weekend, but will jump on this on Tuesday
> morning.  Maybe we should give them until Wednesday or so to figure it out
> before we jump ship.  Also, if we keep trying to use the system, we might
> find more clues to help them identify the problem.
>
> One difference between this time and the last time is that I have a list
of
> everybody's email address that is on this list, and can easily send a
> message to all subscribers, regardless of whether the list is working or
> not.  Although it would be a hassle for me to add folks back to the old
list
> myself, I could send a message telling folks to resubscribe, and how to do
> it, so nobody should be left behind.
>
> After Wednesday, we'll think of something, but I'm certainly open to
> suggestions...
>
> Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL
> N56ML "at"  hiwaay.net
> see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford
>
>
>
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