Bill, Thanks for the info. please keep me posted. This one airplane has a very low canopy, but the original length with the small tail. The wings are Diehls. Keep me informed, as I certainly don't have the qualifications of your test pilot, but have to fly this in a similiar configuration to yours. Bobby
> Bobby, My pilot is a high time (18,000 hr.) pilot, test pilot for the > Raspet > Flight Research Lab at Mississippi State University with experience in > hundreds of aircraft. He has experienced this before in the "Marvel" > research aircraft where the wing area was increased without proportionally > increasing the horizonatal stabilizer area. This occurred at that time. > The > horizontal stabilizer area was increased and the problem was solved. It > became stable through full stall. You might like to communicate with some > other KR-2 builders who did build a true airfoil horizontal stabilizer > (not > flat on top) and seek their opinion. My problem could be caused by the > changes I make in the fuselage. My canopy sits 3-4 inches higher than the > standard, it is very sleek with very little drag. I used a dragonfly > canopy > and built the turtle deck to fit. (I get 135 mph indicated at 2800 rpm). > After I put wheel pants on it and some fairings elsewhere I hope I will > get > a little higher MPH. > Thanks for your interest. I will keep you posted as to the results of > increasing the area of my horizontal stab. > Bill Page > boliverp...@bellsouth.net > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <bo...@hatconversions.com> > To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net> > Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 7:19 PM > Subject: Re: KR> Horizontal stab stall > > >> Bill, >> I spent lots of time in my Mustang II with guys that were used to >> flying General Aviation aircraft. Every one wanted to fly it. In all >> the time I had it (800+hours) I can't remember anyone that was >> successful at a stall sequence the first time. With out fail, >> everyone over controlled it going into the stall, and more critical, >> coming out. We either ended up in an accelerated stall or a couple of >> times it actually snapped upside down. >> Don't know what your qualifications are, but is there a chance it >> would be worth letting a high time experimental pilot test fly it, or >> maybe get one of the active KR2 guys to come fly it for you? >> >> The reason I am asking these questions is I have an original >> fuselage >> with a set of Diehl wings almost ready to fly. Keep us updated. >> Bobby >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Bill, >>> KR-netters >>> >>> After consulting with the Aerospace Department at Mississippi State >>> University concerning the pitching up of my KR-2 upon stall approach, a >>> probable cause has been reached. The Horizontal Stabilizer is stalling >>> prior to the wing stall. This may be caused by the longer wing by Dan >>> Deihl. This creates a very dangerous condition. There are three ways to >>> prevent this condition. (1) Increase the stabilizer area by increasing >>> by >>> several inches the length of the stab. The standard flat stabilizer is >>> only about 50% as efficient as a stabilizer with a true airfoil which >>> leads to the 2nd method of prevention. (2) Change the stab airfoil to a >>> true airfoil which will increase the efficiency of the stab. And (3), >>> Don't stall the aircraft, keep the airspeed well above stall. >>> It has been noticed that some KR-2 builders constructed a true airfoil >>> rather than the flat stab shown in the plans. Maybe it should be noted >>> to >>> other KR builders to do the same. >>> You guys who have true airfoil stabs, where did you get your plans, >>> technical info., etc. I would like to change my stab to a true airfoil. >>> >>> Maybe if I put Armorall on my horizontal stabilizer my problem will be >>> solved. >>> >>> I'm still finding dingle berrys after that close call. >>> >>> Bill Page >>> boliverp...@bellsouth.net >>> _______________________________________ >>> Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >>> to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net >>> please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________ >> Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >> to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net >> please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html >> > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html >