I agree that they do help slow up.

They do alter the attitude which would indicate that there is something 
happening to the lift/drag ratio but I am not sure I would bet my privet hedge 
on the effect on stall speed :( I have wimped out of actually doing a full flap 
stall test.

In my experience landing distance is effected much more by weight. I can land 
happily in 400 yd on low tank, but with a full tank I just cannot get a good 
approach angle (even with full flap) and need up to 700 yds.

Of course this is a cg issue but any increase in weight needs more lift leading 
to increased angle of attach for a given speed which takes us close to the 
situation where the aot to take off is very close to the stall aot.

This all does my head in, so I would go with the old kiss mantra - light and 
simple.

Pete
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phil brookman <pjb1234...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

in my experience the kr flaps realy do something ===no doubt about it about 3 
knots ..
i am just looking at v g s ..possibly increasing wingspan a bit ==look at diehl 
wingskins 

phill





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From: Peter Diffey <pe...@heroic.co.uk>
To: KRnet <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Wed, August 3, 2011 10:16:56 PM
Subject: Re: KR> Flap and belly board combination.

Hi,

I am no expert, but as far as I can figure, a belly board will increase drag 
but 
will not increase lift, so will not allow a lower landing speed.

The belly board drag will allow a steaper approach, it will also help you bleed 
off speed during the roll out.

Whether the kr2 flaps have any significant effect on stall speed is a moot 
point, I doubt if anybody has done any design analysis.

Looking at the flaps on my std kr2 I doubt if they do much to stall speed.

The easiest way to keep down the safe landing speed is to build light - I 
thought hemlock was a sort of poison :)

Pete
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Rodger Nicolls <bandenok...@gmail.com> wrote:

Phil and Larry,
Thank you for the replies. I am looking at dropping the stall/landing speed,
increasing the visibility, and contending with a heavier empty weight (using
hemlock, 10% heavier than spruce, with extended fuselage). I have moved the
controls in front of the rear spar and plan to use the entire area behind
the spar for the flaps.
On anther note: I completed building my gear legs: 50 layers S-glass-BID and
38 layers S-glass-UNI, with a total compressed/cured thickness of .80". Now
I just need to get the mount welded.

If anyone is interested in the story (with pictures) of an experimental Cub
being destroyed by a calving glacier, let me know and I'll forward those to
you. It's a shame that after spending all that time on a lovely project to
see it lost in a matter of seconds.

I will continue to build.
Thanks,
Rodger
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