Thanks Doug. Good to hear from you. No, the pilot weight is not in the 903
weight with full fuel. Plane was level at weighing. No when I almost lost
it, there was only about 1/4 tanks of fuel each side. Yes on my weight.


Mark Jones
KR2S (N771MJ)
Cessna 140 (N1856C)
Tampa, FL

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On Wed, May 20, 2026 at 1:40 PM Doug Steen via KRnet <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Mark,
> Long time since we have met.  I admire your work discipline to have built
> two KRs! See my wt and balance calculations based on the fuel that was on
> board when you weighed  your plane.  You should have leveled the plane
> prior to getting the weights, otherwise re-weigh it and recomputte..  And,
> did you have 24 gallons of fuel and yourself at 178 when you taxied?  If
> you want to calculate CG at different pilot and fuel weights, then you need
> the fuel arm from the center of mass of the fuel and it might not be the
> 46.5 inches indicated in your email.
>
> Doug Steen
> wt LBS arm moment
> L Main 319 67.5 21532.5
> R main 325 67.5 21937.5
> Nose 259 21.5 5568.5
>
> Total 903 54.3062 49038.5 if 178 lb pilot was included in weights on gear
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 20, 2026 at 12:12 PM Chris Pryce via KRnet <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> What are you getting for a calculated CG for the aircraft in flying
>> configuration? I would hope that it is 54.5 to 60.5 based on your Datum for
>> your leading edge.
>>
>> On Wed, May 20, 2026, 10:05 mark jones via KRnet <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> HELP......I am so confused. My new KR WunderBird is ready to fly except
>>> for the weight and balance. I have made many runs down the runway and on
>>> one run I lifted the nose and she shot straight up to about 100' and I
>>> could not push the nose down and she stalled on me. I was fortunate enough
>>> to cut power and get her flat before she contacted the ground very hard.
>>> Bent the main landing gear brackets and had to make more. I did some w&b
>>> adjustments, repaired the gear and tried again. Still tail heavy. I am very
>>> lucky I did not destroy the plane on that first flight attempt. So, here is
>>> my challenge to anyone who wishes to figure a weight and balance on this
>>> bird. I just want to compare others with my calculations. Here are the
>>> parameters.
>>>
>>> Weighed with FULL FUEL: 12 gallons each wing.
>>> Left Main 319 lbs
>>> Right Main 325 lbs
>>> Nose wheel 259 lbs
>>> Datum measuring point: Front side prop Crush plate
>>> Datum to nose wheel: 21.5"
>>> Datum to Mains: 67.5
>>> Datum to leading edge stub wing: 46.5
>>> Datum to Pilot: 65" with pilot weight 178l lbs
>>>
>>> Thanks for any help.
>>>
>>> Mark Jones
>>> KR2S (N771MJ)
>>> Cessna 140 (N1856C)
>>> Tampa, FL
>>>
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