On Fri, 1 Jun 2007, Peter Memishian wrote:

>
> > >         * A number of places do something like this:
> > >
> > >             #
> > >             # ksh is not lint-clean yet.  Fake up a target.
> > >             #
> > >             lint:
> > >                     @ print "usr/src/cmd/ksh is not lint-clean: skipping"
> > >                     @ $(TRUE)
> > >
> > >           The above doesn't seem consistent with the way we handle this
> > >           elsewhere in ON.  Instead, the general rule is to have a normal
> > >           lint target that spews warnings, and simply omit the directory
> > >           from $(SRC)/Makefile.lint
> >
> > AFAIK (if I remeber this correctly) we tried that and it didn't work and
> > then we've copied the solution of the "perl" built - see
> > http://src.opensolaris.org/source/xref/onnv/onnv-gate/usr/src/cmd/perl/Makefile#59
> > The original "Incomplete Tourist Guide" covered this item - see
> > http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/ksh93-integration-discuss/2006-June/000433.html
>
> It mentions it, but I don't see a justification.  We generally only use
> that for things we know we will never make lint-clean -- and there are
> only two examples of that which I see in ON (fmli and perl).  Everything
> else works the way I suggested.

I don't understand what the "problem" is with the way Roland has 
implemented this?  Is it a _big_ problem - or is is simply your 
personal preference?

Please don't ask an unpaid, volunteer, OpenSolaris developer to make 
changes that are simply stylistic or (personal) preference based. 
Consider that Sun employees are paid to make any changes their 
management requests - but that simply can't apply to volunteers like 
Roland who have already put *hundreds* of unpaid man-hours into a 
project.

If its important to you personally - then please feel perfectly free 
to checkout the relevant files and make the changes yourself.

I would like to see the ON integration team work more synergistically 
with Roland to get ksh93 integrated into ON ASAP.  In many cases, I 
see emails suggesting changes, where the time it takes to write the 
bloody email is longer than the time it would take to checkout the 
source and *make* *the* *suggested* *changes*.  And, AFAIC, this is 
simply unacceptable behavior.

Now - please apply the above logic to the rest of this email which I 
will now .... snip .....

PS: If its good enough to integrate its *good* *enough* to integrate. 
We simply can't build GOLD-PLATED software using unpaid OpenSolaris 
volunteers.

Regards,

Al Hopper  Logical Approach Inc, Plano, TX.  al at logical-approach.com
            Voice: 972.379.2133 Fax: 972.379.2134  Timezone: US CDT
OpenSolaris Governing Board (OGB) Member - Apr 2005 to Mar 2007
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/ogb/ogb_2005-2007/

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