On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 22:40, Thorsten Scherler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, 2008-09-06 at 16:16 -0400, Grant Ingersoll wrote:
>> BTW, why do you need to go through incubation?
>
> http://labs.apache.org/bylaws.html
>
> "...
> Lab Lifecycle
> ...
> Promoted
> Lab started incubation. When a lab is promoted, the files are moved over
> to the incubation area.
>
>
>>  All the code was
>> developed in the ASF.  It's ASL.  You already have a home designated
>> for it.  Seems like incubation can be skipped.

No Lab can go into a project without going through the incubator.
That's how I read "Guidelines Rationale" of the bylaws.
This is certainly the case when a Labs wants to go TLP. If the very
same incubation process is needed for full blown TLP candidates _and_
for small codebases going to be absorbed into existing projects, I
don't know.

There are no precursors for this process.

> I quote above document:
> "...The Apache Software Foundation is well known for its motto community
> is more important than code and has designed its incubation facilities
> accordingly."
>
> The idea of the incubator is to grow a healthy apache community that can
> assure the long run health of the project.
>
> Droids does not have an active community around it yet. We have some
> interest and some people providing patches but not an active community
> yet. That is why I agree the best is to go to incubation to build a
> community that share the ideas of droids.
>
>> Heck, if you want, we
>> could make it a Lucene Java contrib project and make you a committer.
>> Just create a patch and submit it to JIRA.  Or, we could discuss w/
>> the Lucene PMC about making it a subproject.  Or, just say the same
>> thing to HttpComponents.  I don't see why it needs to go into Incubator.
>
> As a sub-project you need to go as well through incubation. Solr, Nutch
> and many more has been in incubation (see
> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/)

That's particulary true for projects going to TLP or coming from
outside the ASF with a large codebase.
I don't know what others think, but I could imaging small, dedicated
labs going more or less directly to other projects as sub-projects.

> The important thing right now for droids is to get people interested and
> committed. Thanks for your feedback and your interest. If you think I
> should announce Droids to the lucene lists because people are interested
> I certainly can do this.

+1, spread the word!

  Bernd

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