On Mon, 2008-09-08 at 07:42 +0200, Bernd Fondermann wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 22:40, Thorsten Scherler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > On Sat, 2008-09-06 at 16:16 -0400, Grant Ingersoll wrote:
> >> BTW, why do you need to go through incubation?
> >
> > http://labs.apache.org/bylaws.html
> >
> > "...
> > Lab Lifecycle
> > ...
> > Promoted
> > Lab started incubation. When a lab is promoted, the files are moved
> over
> > to the incubation area.
> >
> >
> >>  All the code was
> >> developed in the ASF.  It's ASL.  You already have a home
> designated
> >> for it.  Seems like incubation can be skipped.
> 
> No Lab can go into a project without going through the incubator.
> That's how I read "Guidelines Rationale" of the bylaws.

Yeah, this how I understand them as well.

> This is certainly the case when a Labs wants to go TLP. If the very
> same incubation process is needed for full blown TLP candidates _and_
> for small codebases going to be absorbed into existing projects, I
> don't know.
> 
> There are no precursors for this process.

Actually not having to go through incubation will save quite a lot of
time and energies. I see your and Grant point however we would need to
specify our bylaws.

...
> >> Heck, if you want, we
> >> could make it a Lucene Java contrib project and make you a committer.
> >> Just create a patch and submit it to JIRA.  Or, we could discuss w/
> >> the Lucene PMC about making it a subproject.  Or, just say the same
> >> thing to HttpComponents.  I don't see why it needs to go into Incubator.
> >
> > As a sub-project you need to go as well through incubation. Solr, Nutch
> > and many more has been in incubation (see
> > http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/)
> 
> That's particulary true for projects going to TLP or coming from
> outside the ASF with a large codebase.
> I don't know what others think, but I could imaging small, dedicated
> labs going more or less directly to other projects as sub-projects.

Yeah, I would like to hear the opinion of Stefano especially and the
people that created the bylaws to start with. 

> > The important thing right now for droids is to get people interested and
> > committed. Thanks for your feedback and your interest. If you think I
> > should announce Droids to the lucene lists because people are interested
> > I certainly can do this.
> 
> +1, spread the word!

Doing some marketing of droids to get some fresh blood is the most
important thing ATM independent from incubation or not.

Thanks for your feedback.

salu2
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Thorsten Scherler                                 thorsten.at.apache.org
Open Source Java                      consulting, training and solutions


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