Their is a 3rd way: a PMC can start a subproject of a TLP w/o the
incubator as long as it doesn't have any code.
It seems silly at best, and really paranoid as Santiago said at worst,
to me that Thorsten should have to fill out a software grant in order
to give his code to HttpComps (or Lucene???) when all of it was
developed in the ASF. Doesn't the CLA apply here?
As for the community concern, I will bet you that there are more
interested Droids people on HttpComps (Lucene) then there are in
incubator, and thus it is more likely to attract community there than
in incubation. Of course, on the other hand, just because something
is in incubation doesn't mean it can't still be "marketed" by the
destination PMC, just as Lucene does for Tika. However, my
experience is that it still seems like they are treated differently.
On Sep 9, 2008, at 2:38 PM, Niall Pemberton wrote:
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
Thorsten Scherler wrote:
I don't know what others think, but I could imaging small,
dedicated
labs going more or less directly to other projects as sub-projects.
Yeah, I would like to hear the opinion of Stefano especially and the
people that created the bylaws to start with.
A lab *has* to do thru incubation, even if it's just a formality. If
not, somebody willing to bypass the incubation procedures, could
simply
pay a committer to pretend it was his/her code and just work on it
for a
while in labs until good enough and then just ask for TLP.
We have not cleared any IP here, labs wasn't created for that and we
don't know how to do it (and don't care to care about it at this
stage).
The price to pay for the ASF allowing us not to care is the
prohibition
on releases. To lift that prohibition, you need to go thru
incubation.
There is no wiggle room for this.
I think Stefano's right - but there are two ways to go through the
incubator 1) full blown project/incubation and 2) short-form IP
clearance, for code bases being brought into an existing project. In
the second short-form process then in the case of something
developed here it should be very straight forward - complete the
form and submit it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for approval. If thats
successful then you can just move the code straight from labs to the
recipient project.
See http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/index.html
Niall
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