Hi Ant,
even if I would like to have releases here, during the time and
speaking with you all I changed my mind, in the way that Lab should
not allow releases.

My non-technical concern is about the community around every single
project, even if there could be PMCs available to vote a release, we
know that at 90% of the cases there's a "one-man-band" behind it :(

OTOH I understand my Commons fellow Mladen because the situation I
just described sometimes happens when speaking about components inside
the project, maintained sometimes by a single committer.

My personal position is open to both the options, I would be maybe one
of the firsts on getting benefit from the karma of Lab releases, so
I'm available to put my effort on the table to discuss about it.

just my poor 2 cents, have a nice day!
All the best,
Simo

http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
http://www.99soft.org/



On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 10:23 AM, ant elder <ant.el...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 1:41 PM, Mladen Turk <mt...@apache.org> wrote:
>> On 08/31/2011 01:20 PM, Ross Gardler wrote:
>>>
>>> On 30 August 2011 17:44, Mladen Turk<mt...@apache.org>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 08/30/2011 05:52 PM, Graham Leggett wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 30 Aug 2011, at 5:49 PM, Mladen Turk wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Make sure lab projects can make releases.
>>>>>> The reason for no releases policy is a mystery to me and
>>>>>> it actually forced me to move one of my projects from
>>>>>> labs to sourceforge.
>>>>>
>>>>> The reason for "no releases" is that if you want to make releases, you
>>>>> should be in the incubator.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> And for the incubator you need a community
>>>
>>> No you don't.
>>
>> Since when? Don't tell me that a single person
>> can constitute an incubator podling.
>>
>
> I don't think there is any Incubator rule on the minimum initial
> committers but I've been part of the Incubator for over 6 years and
> don't recall there ever being a poddling accepted with only a single
> initial committer and i do recall several occasions where single
> committer projects have been suggested to go elsewhere to grow their
> community before trying to be an Incubator poddling.
>
> The Incubator is mainly about learning about community building which
> is quite different from Lab work so i don't think the Incubator is
> very appropriate for most labs. I also think its quite reasonable to
> want to do releases of lab code as part of the innovation process.
> There are some signs that some Labs PMC people are starting to think
> this might be ok, i think its just going to take some time.
>
>   ...ant
>
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