On 2 September 2011 11:17, Mladen Turk <[email protected]> wrote: > On 09/02/2011 11:50 AM, Ross Gardler wrote: >> >> I agree. I'd say we are about 50/50 right now. My concern is that >> nobody has yet addressed the real reasons why releases are not allowed >> (in a nutshell that it would become a way to circumvent the >> incubator). >> > > I think that was the concern as well, although it shouldn't be. > Labs release might be a good attraction for building initial community > eventually speeding up the transition to the incubator podling.
But Labs was specifically created to *not* build community. It's a place to experiment and then throw away the experiment. Do we really *need* to change labs, or do we need to make the incubator more friendly to internal projects with no community (as discussed the rules don't prevent projects going straight to the incubator, but there is a perception that they are not welcome). > Concerns that it would duplicate the incubator simply do not stand > because the project from labs can either go to the incubator or > be directly included inside existing TLP. It's not about the internal rules but the external perception. A release from the ASF has a certain amount of brand equity, mostly related to IP management. Labs is not an environment in which that IP due diligence is required. The internal concern (as I understand it) is not about circumventing the process but undermining the integrity of the Apache brand. I, for one, am not willing to review releases from labs (I barely have the time to do it for the incubator projects I mentor). Ross --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected]
