I have a copy of the original book - published by Methuen & Co, 36 Essex Street, W.C., London in 1900. However, the mat does not appear in that book.
A photo of it appears in "In the Cause of English Lace", which was published by Ruth Bean in 1991. The mat was designed by Miss Channer, but the sample was worked by "Mrs. Dixon of Clapham, Bedford, at one of the classes of the Bedford Technical Institute, c. 1926", and is held by the Cecil Higgins Art Gallery, Bedford. Ruth Budge (Sydney, Australia) --- Marcie Greer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I remember the discussion too, but I can't remember what was said. What > we need to know is when the pricking was first made and if it is early > enough, that is sufficient. Otherwise we need to know when Miss Channer > died. Before a certain date (around about 1900, I think), the point at > which the original was created is used, after that date the death of the > author is used as the starting point for counting the years till it is > in the public domain. Miss Channer's relatives probably hold the > copyright to her pricking and any attending materials she herself made > and Ruth Bean may only have a copyright on their printed form of the > material (it would be interesting to find out if they were even the > original printers of the book.) Does someone on the list have the > information from the front of the book? If you wouldn't mind re-posting, > some of us can keep an archived copy of the info this time around. This > question comes up about once a year. Also, aren't there are two methods > for working the mat... one Beds and one Bucks? I have a vague memory of > this being discussed as well. > > Marcie > > > >>>>>>>>Original message: > Hi, Vivienne and others, - I have a very vague recollection (and I may > be wrong) that the copyright on the original Miss Channer's mat ran > out, but that Ruth Bean got a copyright because there was no pattern > and she got someone to draw the pattern out and make a pricking and > pattern, which makes that particular pattern her copyright material. > > But someone else could do the same thing - get the original and make it > into a pricking and a pattern, I mean. All you would have to do is draw > it out and make the pricking and keep records of the process so that > you could prove you didn't just copy Ruth Bean's version. > > - > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: > unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://search.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Search - Looking for more? Try the new Yahoo! Search - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]