On Aug 14, 2008, at 11:16, Wendy Davies wrote:

I am working on a Milanese butterfly and working around the tip of the wings the instructions say to do a Pivot Turn on there and what I was wanting to know is there a limit of how many times you can go around the pin at the Pivot
point. I have worked out that I will need to go around about 9 times.

As far as I know, there's no "rule" about how many times you can re-use the same pivot pin; you use it as many times as you need to, so 9 should be fine.

The only reason (that I can think of) that you might want to limit that number is visual; the more times the worker pair goes to the same pin, the larger the resulting hole (because the inner - pivot -- pair gets longer, as more worker passes wrap around it). Sometimes, that's desirable; sometimes, it's not. In all cases, make sure that you tension your worker and your pivot passive *well* with every pass of the worker. And, when you're finished, give the pivot passive an extra tug, to push the worker wraps closer together.

There are many ways of going around a curve - Milanese seems to "like" the scroll method -- and, sometimes, they can be combined to achieve the visual effect you're aiming at.

I highly recommend Bridget Cook's "Practical Skills in Bobbin Lace"; even though it has no patterns, it's full of tips -- well illustrated with thread-by-thread diagrams -- on how to tackle different problems (including curves and corners and angles), not necessarily tied to any particular style of lace. It's the best single book investment I have ever made and I still consult it with some regularity (and keep adding tech tips to it, as they come up either on Arachne or in other books)

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Tamara P Duvall                            http://t-n-lace.net/
Lexington, Virginia, USA     (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland)

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