More information on what I'm asking.

I remembered that I'd bought three Victorian miser purse patterns from Dakota Prairie Treasures.com, reprinted from old publications for SCA enthusiasts. Two of those call for purse silk, the other for crochet silk. With them are equivalence charts for crochet stitches, knitting yarns and needles, and crochet threads and hooks. Of course there's no equivalent for purse silk or crochet silk, but there is an explanation of crochet silk:

"A hard twisted silk,used for knitting and crochet. The sizes vary from 1 to 5; the latter being the finest. Nos. 1, 2 and 3 are the most common Observe, there is an immense difference both in the quality and price of crochet silk. Some work into a substance with scarcely any more gloss than cotton. In all respectable Berlin houses, the maker's name is attached to every skein. Pearsall's silks hold a high position, both for quality and tint."

The hook and needle sizes used in the patterns are:

Size 18 knitting needles, which seem to be 1.25 mm thick
crochet hook no.17 (Walkers bell gauge) - probably around 0.75 mm
Boulton's indented crochet hook No.23 - who knows what modern size that is!

Modern doll patterns seems to use size 40 and 80 crochet thread with size 17 and 18 knitting needles.

So I don't think that modern knitting silk would be the correct thickness. Probably the thickness would be one of those we use for lacemaking. Brenda, can you suggest wraps per inch for that size of knitting needle/crochet hook?

I've found one of the patterns I bought is on the web for free on several sites, one being:

http://www.allfreecrafts.com/crochet/bridal-purse.shtml

I'm thinking that this type of purse (misers) could be made as lace. A few ideas are forming.

Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK
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