Based on that issues, and some more, me and that designer will not look back to Delphi legacy, excluding the LCL and we will try to manage to make a fork of Lazarus. The role of that fork is very easy: it will must provide bet UI for user, and will not take care about users that say: "in Delphi is different", because Lazarus is not Delphi, is much better. That fork will be maintained to an external server, like OpenSVN one and hopefully when will get enough substange to get it's own merit as an upgrade to Lazarus, hopefully will be merged back to Lazarus code.

The project will be named LightZarus and will have the notice that is based on Lazarus code.
I think it is not time to make UI Forks, Lazarus is on an very good way as it is. And a lot of Delphi code can be used "as is" so i dont think that the Delphi compatibility is an bad thing. Also the Delphi 7 like GUI layout is an very good decision. For my opinion you are the minority, not Lazarus. This sounds a bit like "figthing for Lazarus" but its my opinion. if you have good ideas, spend it to the Lazarus project and dont make forks, that never ends good for every project, at example takle a look at beryl and compiz.

best regards
Christian

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