Chad Carr wrote:
Very neat. Very complete. Do you have any test data (other than that
in the comments) to fill this table? Especially GMPackageVariables and
GMPackageVariableValues. This would be very helpful in what I am doing
now to attempt to define a hierarchical config-db for the leaf box
itself.
I'm really impressed by the .sql file so far, and I appreciate
the fact that Greg has taken the time to review the developers
documentation by David D that he cites in the file.
I don't know how many people ever take on the project
of cataloging every last detail and variable about an
operating system in their lives. I'd just like to say
that this critical foundation step could take you 6 months,
and I would be just as happy as if you finished it this week.
So please take your time, partly to have enough chances
to sleep on it, partly so that folks don't consume all
the time slices in their lives. Time-sharing is cool.
No matter how much XML makes my skin creep, I'm ten
times more curious about the amazing things that could
have kept Greg interested for a whole year on this subject.
So though I too feel strongly about simplcity, I think
Greg needs a chance to show just how simple his complex
system makes things.
If we ignore some of the higher level Anaconda/Python
aspects of Greg's idea for now, I'd like to have a chance
to learn where Chad's and Greg's ideas intersect. I'm
not sure they're all that differnt.
I also like how we both came up against firewalling and ipsec and put it
off till later! Those are definitely the two hardest problems!
Microsoft has demonstrated how difficult it is to come up with
comprehensible GUIs for these two items (by failing to do so).
This is what got me to post, as I'm haven't done db mastering
in 10 years, complex routing.
I wrote a firewall for LRP a few years ago, rc.pf that used
ipfwadm in the days before ipchains, but I never could get
myself to write a more complicated firewall using ipchains
that handled things like ipsec, dhcp, dmzs, proxy-arp, and
the like because I just don't have access to complex networks.
Charles came along with his versions, and with his far greater
array of hardware and network topologies, he was able to grind
his way to scripting the setups.
So we can qualitatively reflect on that, but how do we
quantize it? How do we (how does Greg) determine what
all those values and procedures are to build proxy-arp
and whatnot without either learning it all himself or
sitting down with Charles and talking about it?
We may need a live way of communicating, meeting once a week
in a chat room or using mics or something.
So in closing, I guess if I communicated more with others,
I could have gotten more help on the parts I couldn't test.
Cheers,
Matt
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