On Sun, Feb 16, 2003 at 09:50:23PM +0000, Lars Kneschke(priv.) said:
> Richard Amerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: 
> >I personaly am dedicated to the idea of a floppy based bering, but I
> >find that using 2 floppies is no big deal.  I'm also sure that as
> >other technologies that preserve the simple and fulproof physical
> >write protect concept with the floppy based installs, we can allow the
> >size to grow.

At the risk of starting a flame war, what does hardware write protect
gain you? Sure, you can prevent a cracker from scribbling on your boot
media, but then all you've got is a router that can be rebooted to a
crackable state - you're still horribly insecure, your traffic is
sniffable and DOS'able.

Seems to me that hardware write protect gives a really false sense of
security - it's far more important to keep crackers out of your box,
than to limit what they can do once they're in there.  Given that
hardware write protect is also an impediment to timely upgrades of
important code (SSHD, shorewall, whatever), since you have to ship new
physical media, I think there's a fairly compelling case that hardware
write protect actually *reduces* the overall security of your router.
 
> 2 floppys means, that you can't do a remote remote reboot, if you don't have
> a second floppy drive built in.
> 
> I like the cd-rom idea(also because i'm working on it :)). It will give more
> space. And cd-rom drives are very low cost today.

If we're talking lowcost boot media for Bering, then I'd strongly
recommend Compact Flash and Disk-on-modules - they're cheap, and much
easier to setup than all these dual media read-only rigs.  I've done the
full gamut of media (floppy, cdrom, hard drive) with various LRP
flavours in the past, and found that floppy and cdrom systms were just
to unreliable, hard drives to big and expensive, and flash based systems
to be absolutely perfect.  YMMV, of course.

Cheers
Si


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