On 18 Dec 2003, Homer Parker wrote:
> My last reply ended up going to Mike directly, but... My suggestion was
> to post the large text file to a web/ftp server, and including a link in
> the post.. Would solve all the problems..
>
That works Ok unless the poster's problem is that he/she can't get his/her web/ftp server to work through Shorewall!
Or he or she has a dialup connection. Or has a dynamic address that changes frequently. Or has no host (LAN or otherwise) to run a web/ftp server on. Or ... even for people who can do it this way, it is often a real inconvenience.
The bottom line is that Shorewall support requires that people reporting problems need to be able to send 128-column text files in a way such that the file's contents don't resemble pretzels when they get to me...
For what it's worth, I've gotten pretty used to reading "pretzelized" ipchains, then iptables, ruleset lists produced with the native commands. Same for "pretzelized" log entries. Shorewall output isn't that different from native iptables output.
And the wrapping problem isn't associated with "newbie" MUAs; a lot of lists have members who regularly criticize anyone who uses a mailer that does *not* wrap at 72 or 80 characters. You can't, it seems, have an MUA that satisfies everyone.
In the end, I think Mike is right ... the problems with attachments outweigh the inconveniences from not having them. Unless ... just a blue-sky idea here ... the version of Mailman we use can rewrite attachment names so they all end in ".txt". Every MUA I'm familiar with interprets that extension as plain text and opens it as such, preventing any executable from executing and any active content from acting (I think).
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