On Dec 18, 2008, at 9:45 PM, John Cowan wrote:

Ah, but will Lunar civil time be mean solar time on Luna?

For many purposes, yes. The Apollo missions were planned to occur in daylight, for instance. For other purposes, the factor of ~30 contrast between the lunar day and the innate human diurnal rhythms would result in the natural use of a clock similar or identical to mean solar time on Earth. One supposes the lunar synodic period would be divided into 30 parts. It would be interesting to see whether the Earth day or Lunar day would win out - that is, whether the synodic period would be evenly divided by 30 to set a local clock rate, or whether the Earth day (meaning the mean solar day on Earth, of course) would trump being evenly divisible into the local day.

Ignore everything else we've ever discussed.  The central issue with
several of us is that the meaning of the UTC standard should not be
changed.  If a decision (ideally a calm, reasoned and publicly
transparent decision) is made to relayer civil timekeeping on a clock
without leap seconds, then don't call that clock "UTC".

As you know, I support that.

Copacetic.

How about calling it - say - GPS?  The public already knows GPS,
already owns devices that speak it, and already regards it as a brand
name denoting high precision/accuracy timekeeping.

I think the public associates GPS with location rather than time.

As an aside, I highly recommend Steven Pinker's "The Stuff of Thought", which persuasively argues that the grammatical structures we use to describe time are precisely the same as those used to describe (and reason about) spatial information.

GPS is a very popular brand name that could certainly be used as a component of a successful campaign to market a new concept of civil timekeeping. Redefining UTC, on the other hand, will simply make what is a somewhat obscure standard even more obscure.

The World Series does seem an egregiously stupid name, though.

No - they simply ought to extend it to teams from Japan and the Dominican Republic, etc.

Rob

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